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When They Cry is a metaseries created by Ryukishi07 and 07th Expansion.

Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni

Higurashi takes place in 1983, in the small town of Hinamizawa. Keiichi Maebara moves to the town, befriending his classmates. The village appears to be simple, peaceful, and quiet - however, this ends after the annual Watanagashi Festival, a celebration to give thanks to the local god, Oyashiro. Keiichi that every year for the past four years, one person has been murdered and another has gone missing on the evening of the Watanagashi Festival, and is soon drawn into the strange events surrounding the Festival.

Umineko no Naku Koro ni

Umineko takes place in 1986, during the timeframe of October 4th and October 5th. It starts off on the island of Rokkenjima, owned by the eccentric business Kinzo Ushiromiya. There, the family conference for the Ushiromiya family is taking place, where it will be decided who will get the nearly dead Kinzo's inheritance. However, a typhoon traps the family members on the island, and over the night, strange things start to happen and people start dying.

Power of the Verse

When They Cry is one of the most powerful verses out there, with even low tiers possessing universal feats and high-level conceptual manipulation. Stronger characters are comfortably hyperversal, with even the weaker ones having the power to dwarf, control, and merge fragments, containing infinite possibilities and multiple dimensions. The strongest characters are boundless, having transcended the normal hierarchy of witches and reached the top.

Explanation of the Cosmology

When They Cry’s cosmology is generally known as the Infinite Hierarchical Abyss. It contains infinite higher worlds, being a sort of infinite ladder with infinite steps (called endeavors) that leads down to an infinite, bottomless abyss.

Humans are the lowest existence in this hierarchy, tossed around by fate. Witches are somewhere in the middle, possessing the power to toy with fate, but accept certain limitations and restrictions to prevent themselves from being lost.

The being that stands at the top of the Hierarchical Abyss is the Creator. This being is boundless and lacks any restrictions, technically lacking even a meaning and an existence.

Amongst these infinite steps is the Sea of Fragments, where the Voyagers search for interesting fragment to keep themselves from getting bored. Each fragment is an infinite world containing infinite possibilities and higher worlds. However, even the Sea of Fragments is a fairly low-ranking world, and there are beings that exist in higher worlds. Such higher worlds include Heaven, Hell, and Aurora’s study.

Beatrice’s “cat box”, which contains the entire story of Umineko, is an endless world containing endless stories, maintained by Beatrice. However, even this world is only a single fragment in a Sea of infinite fragments, and beyond this territory exists even greater worlds. Beatrice’s world itself contains several lower and higher worlds, however.

A Game Master creates a tale - a gameboard - by combining elements of different fragments. Even a single fragment in Beatrice’s catbox is an infinite world with infinite possibilities, and Beatrice’s world contains infinite fragments.

This gameboard manifests a certain possibility, but even it contains lower gameboards;

In the game that represents the inside of Onee-chan's head, Sakutarou certainly does exist, and is a piece which always stays by her side. Though he's nothing more than stuffed animal in the real world, on Onee-chan's game board, he is a full piece, no different from any other pieces.

as well as alternate possibilities:

Beatrice: "H, hm. ......For example, perhaps you could say these worlds are very close like parallel lines. The worlds are nearby, but because they are parallel lines, they will never cross. For the time being, you can view that world in such manner."

Beatrice’s world contains several worlds higher than the gameboard and its own sea of possibilities;

Erika: "Detective's authority. ....The detective has the right to inspect all crime scenes. Stand back, Ushiromiya Battler. This is an official right of the game, which human side has acknowledged." Those words, which seemed to be ridiculous at first. ......were words of power which had come from a world on a much higher plane than the one they were in.

It was a document with the power to proclaim to the beings of higher world that Sakuratou had most certainly materialized in the human world. Sakutarou, who had been created by Maria, was nominated by the two Witches Beatrice and Virgilia, and just now, his existence had been acknowledged by the higher world.
......That itself was the great magic of materialization. According to Beato, it was apparently quite fortunate that Virgilia was there.
Because depend on the number and quality of witches that signed the proclamation to the higher world, the power resided in it could change drastically. Virgilia in particular had many friends in the higher world, so her signature gave the proclamation a power with which Beato's couldn't even compare.

The second highest world of all the worlds in Beatrice’s cat box is the Meta-World, where all the Meta-Beings gather. All the lower worlds are mere chess boards in the Meta-World, and fragments are nothing more than shards of glass. The highest world within the cat box is the Golden Land, maintained by Beatrice’s Golden Heart.

In short, even the lowest world (that of humans) contain infinite possibilities and higher dimensions, and each higher layer stacks more and more on top of that.


Witch: A being that exists above humans, capable of creating and toying with fate. A witch can and will return from “death” (or non-existence) the moment they start thinking.

A territory lord is a witch that acts as the creator and ruler of a territory. When they die, their world will vanish, but will inevitably reappear the moment they start thinking again. However, a territory lord is bound to their territory and cannot really leave. A voyager witch is a witch superior even to a territory lord, a witch that can travel beyond their territory to the Sea of Fragments, and to worlds even greater than those. They mostly use their power to look for fragments containing interesting stories. Voyagers vary vastly in strength.

The Creator is the highest level of witch. A witch that has transcended all restrictions and has become truly boundless, but in the process, has lost all meaning.

More information can be found in this respect thread.

Start a Discussion Discussions about When They Cry

  • When The Discussion Cries

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    • Characters like Will, Ronove, Dlanor and Erika can also do it, and i think by Ep8 everyone can just kinda jump up to the Golden Land.
    • You can change at will if you already went in before. However if you ascend from the first time/"too fast", you're supposed...
  • Question about the locations that are on or above the Meta layer of Umineko

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    • Thanks for the clear response Ultima, that was what I needed. And apologies as I got some terms a bit mixed up (such as when I said Beato...
    • The Witch Domain isn't a single step, but an endless succession of layers, and this isn't based on the Voyagers' journey towa...
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