Introduction[]
Hello everyone! This is a blog putting various Sonic speed calcs in one blog in VSBW to be evaluated here. All three blogs were made by ShakeResounding
NOTE: This is a blog to evaluate calcs based if they are correct in terms of their math, please do not clutter the comments if the feats are valid or not, leave that to a CRT in the new forum, please and thank you
Dodon Pa's Rocket[]
Introduction and Context[]
Team Sonic Racing has the cast being taken to Planet Wisp to begin racing, which is essentially the introduction to the plot of the game. Planet Wisp itself, however, is said to be across the universe. The only reason it was near Sonic's Earth, just like the other planets, was because it was hauled off by Eggman within Sonic Colors. And when the video game concludes, the planets are teleported back by the Wisps. We'll be using Low, Mid, and High ends for the distance.
Low-End: 13.8 Billion Light Years, as suggested by DMAU.
Mid-End: 46.5 Billion Light Years, as suggested by Ogbunabali.
High-End: 93 Billion Light Years (Using the diameter of the Observable Universe if we're taking the quote literally)
The Feat (and more context)[]
The speed feat of Dodon's rocket travelling to Planet Wisp. Using cinematic timing, we get four seconds and will be used as our highest end. However, we still have a timeframe to rely on if four seconds is deemed too quick.
After Dodon makes a remark about Amy's intelligence, she claims it's it's the most condescending thing she's heard all day. To which Sonic makes a remark about that by claiming that the day is also still young, hinting that there was no large passage in time. Even if they left at a good time in the morning, which seems unlikely since it seems to be early afternoon on Sonic's planet in the cutscene, it would trail into late afternoon on Planet Wisp if it took long enough. But as we see, that isn't the case at all.
I think an hour is the highest amount of time that I think is also reasonable, but I'll use 6 hours just for a real lowball. Just in case, though that seems unlikely.
As such, we'll also have Low, Mid, and High ends for time.
Low-End: 6 Hours
Mid-End: 1 Hour
Mid-High End: 10 Minutes (High-End without Cinematic Timing)
High-End: 4 Seconds (Using Cinematic Timing)
The Calculation[]
I will be using this calculator and the "Calculate Speed from Distance and Time" section.
Low-End Distance[]
Using 13.8 Billion Light Years.
6 hours: 20162151069451.965c
(2 trillion x FTL)
1 hour: 12097290641671.182c
(12.1 trillion x FTL)
10 minutes: 725837438500270.8c
(72.6 trillion x FTL)
4 seconds: 108875615775040620c
(108.9 Quadrillion x FTL)
Mid-End Distance:[]
Using 46.5 Billion Light Years
6 hours: 6793768295141.424c
(6.8 trillion x FTL)
1 hour: 40762609770848.54c (Accepted)
(40.8 trillion x FTL)
10 minutes: 244575658625091.25c
(244.6 trillion x FTL)
4 Seconds: 366863487937636860c
(366.9 quadrillion x FTL)
High-End Distance[]
Using 93 Billion Light Years
6 hours: 13587536590282.848c
(13.6 trillion x FTL)
1 hour: 81525219541697.08c
(81.5 trillion x FTL)
10 minutes: 489151317250182.5c
(489.2 trillion x FTL)
4 seconds: 733726975875273700c
(733.7 quadrillion x FTL)
Who Scales?[]
Super Forms, quite obviously, as a random piece of technology is definitely not above the deus ex machinas of the verse ultimate power of Sonic's universe. Beings who scale to them also get this.
Ark of The Cosmos Feat: Up, Up, and Away[]
Calc done by Mephistus, as per usual.
The Feat[]
The Ark of The Cosmos are metallic-like bands and the central focus of Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity. Long story short, the five of them coming together begins to form a black hole due to the Babylon Garden (an ancient ship that used said black hole to traverse the universe until they couldn't control it).
When it activates, it begins to rise from the planet. Moments later, after the conclusion of the cutscene and end of a loading screen, they're already far into outer space. The Babylon Guardian returns to the planet after the boss is defeated, solidifying the fact that the battle truly did take place away from the planet.
The Calc[]
We'll be calculating how far they travelled in the short amount of time it took them to get into outer space.
Screen Height = 600 px
Galaxy diameter = 181.18 px
Angsizing formula = 2atan(tan(70deg/2)*[181.18/600]) = 23.877481771697 degrees
https://www.1728.org/angsize.htm
Solve for distance; size is 220,000 light years (2.081361E21 meters) for its assumed diameter, assuming it's our Andromeda Galaxy.
The result is 4.9219E21 meters away, aka 520245.24049857549835 light years away from the camera.
Normal distance from Earth to Andromeda Galaxy is 2.537 million light years, aka 2.4001873E22 meters away. This gives a result of total distance traversed as 2.4001873E22 - 4.9219E21 = 1.9079973E22 meters.
Considering that the timeframe is mere seconds, and that the galaxy is seen at the very beginning of the race as it careens through space, using the 12 seconds it takes for the fight to begin after the loading screen is a perfectly safe assumption.
We'll use these 12 seconds and plug it in.
Edit: Based on Executor's comment: "However, I do think that it should be something really fast because the black hole was going to destroy the planet and the race itself is only 5 minutes at most. I would use the same 5 minutes as a reasonable value (Like 10 minutes to the planet to be destroyed, so 5 minutes to get there and the other 5 minutes to defeat the boss), but I would also think it could be lower, and not something like hours." 1.9079973E22 meters / 300 seconds = 6.359991E+19 m/s, or 212146464338.33901978c.
212 Billion x FTL. (NEW ONE)
1.9079973E22 meters / 12 seconds = 1.59E+21 m/s or 5303669113650.6171875c (OLD ONE)
Result[]
5303669113650.6171875c, or 5.30 Trillion x SoL. (OLD ONE)
This would technically scale to the Base Cast and Master Core: ABIS due to the latter being directly powered by the Ark of The Cosmos, which is what turned him into Master Core to begin with. Whether it's deemed as an outlier or not, I leave that to you.
Though this obviously scales to the Chaos Emeralds and Super Forms, as they're far superior to the Ark of The Cosmos.
Sonic Rush: Flying To The Exception[]
Sonic speed feat originally calced by Truth Bullets
The Feat[]
There's already a calc for this feat done by Truth Bullets. However, some people complain that assuming travel outside of the universe is too brash. While I disagree, this'll be a sort of "lowballed" version of the calc instead for the skeptics who raised a brow by looking at it. The context for the feat can be found there.
Main difference is instead of using the entirety of the universe, we'll instead go under a few different assumptions for the location of the Exception.
The Calc[]
Low-End[]
For the low-end, we'll make the assumption that the Exception is located within the Boötes Void. This is mainly because, as seen in the clip, we see no celestial bodies whatsoever within the giant expanse of outer space they're travelling in. I say that's a fair assumption to make.
It takes just around seven seconds between the cutscene of them transforming and the fight within the Exception to begin. We'll assume the Exception is straight in the middle of the Boötes Void, which is 700 Mil Light Years away from Earth.
We'll use this calculator.
http://www.calculatoredge.com/civil%20engg%20calculator/speed%20Distance%20Time.htm
700 million light years / 7 seconds = 3155814950001176.5c
Mid-End[]
For the mid-end, we'll make the assumption that the Exception is located within the CMB Cold Spot. Since it's said to be from 6 billion to 10 billion light years away, we'll use 6 billion here. Due to it being stated that the Cold Spot ranges from 500 million light years to 1 billion light years across, we'll be conservative and assume it's 500 million light years across. We'll assume the Exception is at the center once again.
6.25 billion light years / 7 seconds = 28176919196439084c
High-End[]
For the high-end, we'll be using the 10 billion light year distance for the CMB Cold Spot instead. We'll still use the assumption that the Cold Spot is 500 million light years to remain conservative in this result.
10.25 billion light years / 7 seconds = 46210147482160100c
The Results[]
Low-End: 3155814950001176.5c
- 3.16 Quadrillion x SoL. (ACCEPTED)
Mid-End: 28176919196439084c
- 28.18 Quadrillion x SoL.
High-End: 46210147482160100c
- 46.21 Quadrillion x SoL.
Conclusion[]
And that's all three feats, see ya!