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I don't remember their cases well anymore, and ZaStando mainly created a new account to inform me about that he didn't send me any fanfiction.net PMs, but it is technically still a sockpuppet, so I suppose that we should probably ban it.
Does anybody remember the circumstances behind his block?
The listed reasons were "Spamming unreliable threads in attempt to upgrade his favorite verse and characters, and ignoring warnings." for the first block and "Harassment." for the second block. I'll try to look through RVT's at the time of the second to see exactly what happened.
ZaStando should not come back. He’s extremely aggressive and started harassing me on my wall because I didn’t agree with him and had an issue with one of my friends. He has also been banned on other wikis because of his toxic attitude, allowing him to come back will bring more trouble than it’s worth.
ZaStando and Fuzzie should not come back to this website at all. They have been banned numerous times and all they are trying to do is plead for forgiveness when they'll just squash it in the long run. Fuzzie and ZaStando have been pleading for a "1-A Sonic" and are very aggressive at getting something that doesn't exist.
If you bring them back. All they'll do is annoy you guys and or just be terrible members. I know both of them personally.
I’ve been banned two times but not numerous, that’s a lie or rather an exaggeration. The name also is why I expect it’s shadow.
To Wright. I am now going on to say that I can be Civil, there are moments where I admit I can get out of place, but duely expect that will not be the case this time around. I’m staying grounded on the level."
Again. Hard for me to say much in response without context.
People are saying he's said this before. Can they provide scans?
I will say this to ZaStando. Everyone has moments where they can be civil. No one is 200% awfula all the time. Mckmal can be civil sometimes. It's just that by and large, you aren't. The good doesn't outweigh the bad. Unless it turns out the people who claim you've said this before are talking out their ass, my position doesn't change. If it turns out these charges are exaggerated and the accusing side fails to provide proof, however, I'll apologize and welcome you back with open arms.
"It’s all fine, the only bad one was my first ban. The Second One was.... yeah Underwhelming but there’s reason to it, and the threads should be revealed in all it’s glory, because while I was aggressive I was not the one who started it by throwing personal attacks and crapping on my work because they don’t like it. Let’s take a huge step back and Imagine if that was you. Would you have no reaction? I doubt it. I should’ve probably reported it before going in yeah but sometimes in life we don’t think of everything, I am staying to my core principles and saying there won’t be a third ban." -ZaStando27
Alright, fair enough but I still don't think it's wise to bring him back because ZaStando will just bring Fuzzie. Then, they'll make numerous threads asking for outrageous upgrades for Sonic. Do you guys not remember when ZaStando used to propose these threads and they ended up getting closed? Fuzzie and ZaStando also brought in their sock puppets. They should be banned permanently for that.
Also, I'm not a sockpuppet for ShadowWarrior. I've been on this wiki since 2014. Shadow joined 3 years after me, lol.
Bacchus and Shadster are not the same person. Zastando is a freak (I know from personal experiences) and he likes to lie his way to get what he wants. Like everyone else. Fuzzie is an immature child and unless I see some actual improvement in his mental state, he's stays away from us. Plus as Sonic fans, they'll just give me and several other fans a bad name and will make it even more difficult to make any Sonic CRTs in the future.
"Godhead. I’m still not buying it but I’ll play devils advocate. Creating Threads isn’t the issue, it was creating the threads and they end up becoming chaotic or the mods just close them because they feel like it’s not worth it’s not being explored, the number of threads I make significantly dropped in numbers from when I first came here, everyone can tell you this. Sock Puppets? I don’t remember fuzzie having one, and honestly I’ve made only two (in which I’ve made it Known it was me for a purpose, Antvasima And MYHERO Can Tell you) so you should use it in a more subjective context, because that gives off a smell of a exaggerated argument. Also ImagineBreaker121212 is not a sock puppet, he’s clearly his own established entity. Also I don’t understand, a sock puppet can come years after you and the “1999” has reason to suspect. The Threads can be arranged, I’ll just make sure me and Earthyboy don’t cause a hassle of it. Which can easily work out." -ZaStando27
"“What do you mean by a “freak”? And where’s the lie.”" -ZaStando27
"fuzzies choices is on him, you can’t check his mental health because you don’t know him, I did give my word that I will make sure that he doesn’t go deep into the void to the best of my abilities may allow. Also “Lies to get there way like everyone else” ???astonished??? I’m confused, very confused, not because you are placing me in this, But because you said everyone would do this. You have no evidence of lies or “everyone” doing this. Also Rep? The debaters in this site aren’t about rep, it’s about building a Characters status and build it out around knowledge based around the Tiering System, not about how famous you are. Also For Real Cal Okay I’ll take your word for it." -ZaStando27
It seems my name been mentioned and I must throw my hat in the ring. I can confirm with my experiences with ZaStando that he is as not as bad as people sometime make him out to be. I’m not devaluing anyone’s negative experiences with him, but merely just bringing up my experiences with him; in which case he has shown to be really helpful and agreeable.
However he’s already been banned twice. And yes he is not shy to admit that those socks are him, but rules are still rules. You are not allowed to make socks here. I think it’s best that ZaStando just moves on from Vs Battle Wiki and set his sights on someplace else. With its current rules rn, ZaStando is not getting back in anytime soon.
I feel like I have no choice but to report MostPowerfull for some of his posts in this thread. Specifically his latest couple of posts here and here where he engages in what appears to be ad hominem attacks and posting in a very disrespectful manner.
MostPowerfull has been continuously aggressive on Naruto threads and as mentioned, reported before multiple times. I agree that a block should be in order since he hasn’t listened after being told on more than one occasion to tone it down.
This time, I will defend myself. I can't have an opinion on Damage being a CGM? Yes, I believe the context at the time I said it was bad and I apologized on the same topic, but it's still my opinion. I had no intention of attacking him.
I was not aggressive. My texts, anywhere on this Wiki, start the same way, whether by Naruto, One Piece, or anything.. To be clear, this is my way of debating ... Not being friendly to anyone, not being sympathetic to anyone, straight and dry in my words, sometimes with a touch of irony! This is from the beginning. Lack of respect, I've never had anyone here, except when I was really angry with Qwasef, in which I apologized.
The most that happens is sarcasm, when people like Lancelot simply put words where they don't exist, because he understood my text and not what I wrote in it. And as far as I know, sarcasm is still allowed in a debate. It may not be very "well regarded" but it is still allowed.
I took at least 1 Warnings unfair and another, which honestly, I don't care much, but I will quote them.
The first ... I was warned, because I asked everyone to ignore Xulrev, because everyone, even extremely calm people like Kukui, was losing patience and many were launching hate attacks against him and thus were derailing the thread. He reported to me on the grounds that I "was inciting everyone against him." But you can ask any Narutoverse member what they think of Xulrev and the answer comes from itself.
The second, when Damage feigned disbelief and tried to be "smartass" and teased me. I answered him in time and he was hurt. This is iffy, but I'm fine!
And the third, when I was really angry with Qwasef, in which I apologized and admitted my mistake.
You can have your opinion all you want, that was never the problem. Your horrible attitude carrying it out is the problem. Like, you yourself literally told me "and then people get mad at me for losing my temper" like these CRTs are aimed as some kind of personal attack and losing your temper isn't your damn responsability.
And there are many people that have seen you act. This is not a "You acted this way in this one comment", this is an ongoing thing. That you are trying to reduce things like this is worrying to say the least.
Like I said, one of the few things that pisses me off is that you just imagine words that I never said. I say "Sasuke with Mangekyou", you wonder and say "Sasuk is faster".
The rest, my attitude remains the same. If you don't like her, it's only your problem. I don't break any rules because some members don't like my attitudes. Not friendly, not sympathetic. I am direct and fair with my convictions.
And being unfriendly to anyone, including Narutoverse members, makes me unique. Just as being nervous is my business, so being unfriendly to anyone and not accepting it is your business.
And yes ... One of the other moments that he quickly pissed me off was when he stealthily asked Antvasima to close a thread they had opened that was against the rules ... Things that you Bleachfans did on their own.
Including, Kep disagreed with him and so on and retreated himself.
You need to show a willingness to make an effort to change your behaviour for the better/to behave more like everybody else in this wiki. Otherwise we might be forced to ban you to make you take this issue seriously.
You need to show a willingness to make and effort to change your behaviour for the better/to behave more like everybody else in this wiki. Otherwise we might be forced to ban you to make you take this issue seriously.
Ant, he's been teported 4 times already and was warned twice by staff.
Were completely deleted? I just retired them in the traditional fashion. It's probably Cal's do, tho I deleted the posts before just to not have them around in the case no admin'd have seen the thread. It already happened days ago.
I've seen worse behavior go unreported or outright ignored for whatever reason.It sounds like MostPowerfull just needs a 2 week block or step away from certain threads and users he has problems with or try to ignore them if he has to participate in a thread with them.
Ok,since you have resolved things and Most himself agreed on ban we should drop it.I still want you to know that those quotes you posted on him aren't ban worthy at all.You sitmply cant ban someone who says "I don't agree with you being CGM",thats a stretch.
Andytrenom wrote: He just joined with his first contribution being aggressive and the second mocking kukkui by adding "serious level wank" before his name in the quote. This is not normal behavior
I believe the second thing was an editing/formatting mistake, where he typed his reply in the quote box instead of underneath it. In fact, it's one that I myself have made numerous times.
And the first post isn't nearly "aggressive" enough to make me suspect him of being a troll based on that alone. Mind you, many people I've seen who regularly debate in Naruto threads (here and elsewhere) are as confrontational as that on any given Tuesday.
I say we wait, for now. IF he shows other, more inarguable signs of being a troll, then we can act accordingly.
I'm going through the uploads right now and compiling a list of the worst offenders for batch deletion via my bot. I'm not going to go through all the pages, I don't have that kind of time, but I'll do what I can.
Zach was among four people to whom I issued warnings about this situation due to what he posted in the thread. However, Prom and I were talking in private as I was giving him the warning, and when I mentioned him to her, she decided he had been warned about this sort of thing more than enough times by now. A decision I agreed with, due to just how many times he has been spoken to about this.
Now please, let's try not to derail the thread over it.
I'm not sure if there's been a CRT or not, but I noticed some possibly unjustified edits from this user.
Just coz the person was editing MK tiers without posting a link to a thread and the person only has a small amount of edits. Someone should probably check their edits to other profiles too if warranted.
He already had a second and third chance iirc, and both times, he totally blew it. What he's saying right now is also no different then what he said the previous couple of times. He says he's changed and all that, but second he comes back is the second he makes another thread basically trolling the wiki or saying "Outerverse is a stupid word" and basically insulting multiple Admins. And also says stuff, like "Comicvine is better than this", which is another rule violation being advertisement of other communities.
As much as I hate being blunt, I simply don't trust him any farther then I can throw him.
Not sure if this behaviour is common outside what ive seen, but they have been warned about their behaviour in the past. What do you think? I think a strict warning seems fair unless there is an unlikely chance of them calming down a little.
I was debating wherever it was report worthy, but... The SK vs Kars thread he made for the sake of "fun" ended rather badly with what I can only call very petty messages to close the thread since it was 10 messages away from the 500 post limit. He even acted condescending at one point because two powers were compared and he just thought one superior.
Like, honest to God, is like he has some kind of issue and he is entirely blind to the fact his actions can cause tension or controversy. I am not sure if there's even anyway to explain things to him, but hopefully someone could give a warning to give his actions just some thought.
Well, it was agreed he's not a troll by any means, but he does appear rather immature, naive, and stuff like that. And looking at it, it was a fun and games board; there was nothing to get overly worked up about it unless the attitude was overly toxic. However, his last few posts did look over dramatic. He's also had a history of creating stomp/spite threads. He also created another bad match up which I closed. I can agree with a warning, but he has receive numerous warnings and was even blocked for 6 months at this point. Not saying he needs to be banned, but I'm not quite sure what to tell him in a way that he'll listen.
Such user has been repeating the same arguments over and over for a while now, refusing to create CRTs for abilities he claim Alien X has but has never demonstrated and still NLFing the character to hell and back.
I decided to give him a short block since he ignored warnings, I will let that be a stricter warning since he seems very persistent and ignorant. If he comes back and starts causing more trouble, I will be more strict. He even said he won't stop from what I heard.
It seems more like extreme carelessness and just trying to stick to his thing when warned. I really dont see it as anything intentionally mallicious. So how long do you think? I think 3 to 6 months ban should be good. At least enough or a chance to shape up his behaviour.
I'd block him at least 3 months and at most a year. Shitposting on general discussions or fun and games boards or being a creeper for fun isn't exactly RVR worthy unless it's overboard. Or kept on friendly discussions. Though, the Verses thread having Abortion as the topic is indeed controversial. But he's not uploading porn or anything of the like
DarkDragonMedeus wrote: I'd block him at least 3 months and at most a year. Shitposting on general discussions or fun and games boards or being a creeper for fun isn't exactly RVR worthy unless it's overboard. Or kept on friendly discussions. Though, the Verses thread having Abortion as the topic is indeed controversial. But he's not uploading porn or anything of the like
He did shitpost on a touhou content revision and derailed it excessively. Though this is the only case of serious derailing i know of.
On second thought, his user page was very condescending. I suppose he is a deliberate troll. And the fact that he had more warnings than I thought kind of advocates for this. I suppose it's fine to permaban him. But prefer a more temporary one first to see how that goes.