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• It wouldn't be lifting strength, since a black hole is technically just pure gravity, more some kind of power.

• Nah, it can be lifting strength. Superman does it quite well for example.

• Superman makes no sense though.

• Is a black hole even grabbable?

• It is as grabbable as any infinitely dense object that atomizes you with its sheer gravity as soon as you enter its event horizon.

• So if you totally resist gravity, you can do it?

• This question can be revised into "How strong would you need to be to resist the graviational pull of a black hole?"Â

• This thread is giving me a big sense of Deja VÃ¹.

@Tactical I guess...? Then again, I don't even know how you can properly grab a black hole since it has infinite density, and it's not exactly a solid object.

The only way I can see someone moving a black hole without throwing too much logic out of the window is through telekinesis, which already throws logic out of the window since it's a fictional power.

@Blitz You cannot resist it as it affects you down to your very atoms. You specifically have to resist it through Resistance, not through sheer power.

• @Blitz You cannot resist it as it affects you down to your very atoms. You specifically have to resist it through Resistance, not through sheer power.

Is there a fictional character who resists it through sheer power alone?Â

• Lifting a Black Hole is normal lifting strength. Resisting the tidal force is a different thing, I don't now if it can be calculated or attributed to AP/Durability, in most cases its just resistance.

• Honestly, a black hole shouldn't be grabbable. The singularity ie. the mass containing portion of the black hole is a point. A point, being a 0-D thing shouldn't be able to logically be grabbed physically. The mass itself, of the black hole, should logically be equal to the star it used to be, so one can just throw logic out of the window and use Stellar lifting strength.

The irony of writing logically multiple times only to throw it at the end

• Theoretically you can haveÂ a black hole equal to a planck mass

which would beÂ

Below Average Human level XD

use telekinesis onÂ it or something to move it

• DMB 1 wrote: @Blitz You cannot resist it as it affects you down to your very atoms. You specifically have to resist it through Resistance, not through sheer power.

Your atom's durability can be superhuman.
• Even then, they would just separate through the Black Hole's sheer gravity.

• Not if it's high 3-A or above.

• DMB 1 wrote: It is as grabbable as any infinitely dense object that atomizes you with its sheer gravity as soon as you enter its event horizon.

Density = Mass/Volume

Infinite Density doesn't mean infinite mass.

Also, that's the sheer power of a black hole's gravity that atomizes you (like calcs with violent fragmentation, pulverization, vaporization, atomization, etc), not a special ability of gravity to destroy atoms.