Possible Biological Manipulation - Ganesha stated that Shiva was able to replace his head with an elephant's after he cut it off with him saying "sorry can you forgive with this after I cut off your head?"
Avatar Creation - Scaling from Gods such as Shiva and Shita who can create avatars for themselves.
Statistics Amplification - Gave his servants parts of his divine authorities which they can use to greatly enhance their power.
Necromancy - With Yama's Authority, he can raise the dead.
Healing - One of his authorities was used to heal divine enemies and increase their strength like dopamine.
Resistance to Void Manipulation - Was completely fine within nonexistence before the world existed.
Before moving to Super form, this should be included to his normal key.
Absorption: Absorbed Ashwattahama's spiritual core to himself.
He should get all of Ashwattahama's abilities due to absorbing him. He should get Vishnu and Shiva's abilities as well, as he got it after his reappearance. This includes the likes of:
Yet it is in no way at all hinted on their battle, so we'd just give them regeneration negation for no reason with basis. That treads too close to "why don't we give these dudes that win against these guys resistance to this hax? Otherwise it makes no sense that they can win."
They should logically be able to, Ashwattahama with his divine power from Shiva and Yama has immortality that let him regenerate from ash. And he can easily regenerate fatal wounds too, his regen has been shown.
That Ashwattahama has that Regen because of given power from them doesn't matter, especially when it was meant to be as a curse. We have no reason to assume just because they have the authority that Regen is always turned on.
Again, does the battle that Arjuna and Karna ACTUALLY have implies this regeneration in anyway?
@ Iapitus Perhaps if that's what they used in the battle, yes.
No, it's not a curse, who said that? He has it from birth, the suffering is the curse. It's not from Authority, it's just an ability from just having the power of Gods.
You can scale it to other people without them showing it if they logically able to. It's always been the case, Gears from Guilty Gear has Low-Mid regen and Sol Badguy has Mid-High Regen for years now from complete scaling and so does BlazBlue characters with Mid-Godly Regen and Regen Negation. If they should be able to, they should be able to.
Yeah, except none of the cases you are mentioning have anything to contradict them.
Yet we have fights against Arjuna and we even use Super Karna but you are gonna tell me at no point, nowhere, is this super regeneration pointed out at all? If you don't find the issue with this I don't know how to explain we have no reason to assume it's just a passive thing that is on always.
They have "contradictions". Sol never regenerated on that scale on all of his fights, so does Gears. Observers who has Mid-Godly can be killed by normal ass fireball and sword cuts and gun wounds.
Yeah, because they're focused on talking about Gods and shit. It's not needed to constantly brag about it, they have means to negate it after all, like Karna having flames and Arjuna having Authority. Yes, it's passive because Ashwattahama wanted to kill himself but can't because of his regen, constantly regenerating every time he takes fatal hit.
John985 wrote: The power of Arjuna was actually broken because of time travel shenanigans. It was needed to broke the authority of Arjuna's rule. I think that's one of the reason Arjuna's power not working properly.
Yeah, it's been said that his divinity and his position as a God were significantly weakened by Rakhshmi and Ganesha, even more so with his absorption of energy from multiple galaxies within the tree.
Karna wasted so much energy on that fight that his energy was reduced to nothing so it wouldn't make sense that he can regenerate at that state anyway. If he's not burnt by training and forcibly adding Gods Authority to his saint graph he should have regenerated fine. Also Sol is more immortal than Raven which is more evidence of it plus he's only truely hurt by either people from the Backyard or Sacred Treasures, latter which created to kill specifically for creatures just like him. The sword and guns that can kill Observers are usually with Ars Magus which is created to specifically kill self-observing Observers but let's not talk about that.
Yeah I know it happen at early part of the story, it's just that when we fought Ashwattahama Karna use VS just to stop him and he lost his KK. Then when Arjuna attack Chaldea, Karna block it with KK. So how did that happen? Or he didnt use the full power of VS like in extella?
He didn't lost his KK during the fight. In the last part of the fight Karna used 100% VS to him which damaged him greatly but he was like "b!tch I can regenerate get that shit outta here" so they escaped, later then he used full power of KK to block Mahapralaya for few seconds.
It's only stated to a nothingness where only him and people who is at side of him can exist, implying that other people who ended up getting in it has some bad effects upon entering. Ashwattahama also stated that the things were stripped of their forms and only exist as concepts, in fact it's a concept garbage bin.
-BANLK- wrote: Wasn't Mara supposed to be really powerful and could fight the entire hindu pantheon on her own? Well that's what I was informed on the Gil vs Arjuna thread.
Thats... wrong. Especially since she got her ass kicked by one of the supreme gods
Do you mean her getting killed by Shiva?
This has been said before and needs to be said again. KAMA was killed by Shiva, and it's not super big as a God. MARA needed that same Shiva and the rest od the Indian Pantheon keeping her sealed off. They aren't comparable in any way.
Creaturemaster971 wrote: Wasn't there something about Japanese Divine Spirits being above Hindu ones? And Quetzalcoatl being above Greek and Babylonian deities?
The most wierd one is tamamo because of this Shingon Buddhist.
She got different name in every region in India, she's called Vairocana and Dakini-ten. And then there's also those many names that Qin Shi Huang called her, the only thing I remember is the name Daiji, the one who destroyed the civilization of china in the past.
And she's also the god of Kiara's sex cult.
Nasu even included an actual buddhist monk in the group, you'll know his name on niconico as Semimaru-P.
If that's the cause then why is Vector Manipulation (which is an ability from the Superpower Wiki and has now just been added to VS Wiki) added to Satou if it's not a reliable source? Explain that one for me.
Because it's not "an ability from the Superpower wiki", it's an ability. Regardless of whether Superpower wiki added it to their pages before us, it is not a power that originates on the Superpower wiki, it's a power that has shown up in at least three fictions I can name.
And something being listed on superpower wiki is not evidence.
What does them listing Karna with that stuff mean? Not only is omni-protection nit a power on here but they don't provide scans for any of it so what does it matter? Its just an appeal to authority on your part but its not even a good one.