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  • Because escalation is a thing.

    New chapter out, new skills for Han:

    • Precog: Litiral tarot cards, pretty limited, but they can be spammed to give better info (like he did, asking if something is north, and if it was not asking if it was west, etc.)
    • Ressurection: Only within 30 minutes, soul needs to be intact, higher half of the body needs to be mostly in-tact.

    Now, onto other peeps:

    Hwan, Seeker (His true body), Berith, Zagan and Arc Company scale to Sub-rel+ from Han.

    Hwan, The President's golems, Arc, Berith and Zagan scale to 7-B from the [golems]. Since Berith stalled them with 10% of his power, The President also get's a likely 7-B (since one of his man took down Zagan) as well as making full power Zagan, Berith and likely Arc 7-A.

    Hwan gets a current key, since now he's half as strong as before.

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    • And also, Amaterasu was supposed to make an explosion that would have killed everyone in Korea, which is at least 450 kilometers in radius, so low 6-B for her, and a "up to Low 6-B over time" for Arc, with a note that the over time is thousands of years.

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    • I was planning to do this...

      Precog and Ressurection are a given.

      I don't thing Seeker scales in speed, he's DEX stat is hardly anywhere that level. Others are fine tough.

      7-B is mostly fine, tough I'm 99% sure Berith is a glass canon with metal magic.

      7-A too, is fine.

      Not sure if there is any need for current Hwan, we hardly even saw him.

      Amaterasu has no page, but Arc can have it mentioned that he can theoretically get that much power.

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    • I agree with risci on all points here.

      Also, it said that Hwan only has half his strength. So I'm not sure if we should have a third key for that. Or just leave things as is.

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    • Also, that link isn't working.

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    • Also, that link isn't working.

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    • Thank you.

      Doesn't it need to be submitted again?

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    • Pretty sure it doesn't, Bambu used the normal way to calc AP with size, which is already accepted.

      ...It's weird how we rely on a site that tells us how big a girls genitalia were to be hypothetically to calc feats.

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    • Here they are. And we did get Low 7-B, as a possibly anyways.

      Berith
      Bering

      Powers and Stats

      Tier: At least 7-C, possibly Low 7-B | At least 7-C, possibly 7-B | At least High 7-C, likely 7-A

      Name: Berith

      Origin: The Gamer  

      Gender: Male

      Age: Thousands of years 

      Classification: Devil god, Corrupted god

      Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical CharacteristicsMetal Manipulation, Metal based Elemental IntangibilityRegeneration (Low-High. He can regenerate from a metal tie clip), Metal and metal golem creationTransmutationFlightSoul Manipulation (Directly told his enemies to "just sacrifice your body and soul to me!" and implied tp have taken it once he killed them, demon contracts can involve selling people's souls), Immortality (Type 1, 3, and possibly 8 (Stated to have a true form, may have immortality reliant on followers similar to the Arc Company)), Pocket Reality Manipulation and creation, likely Time Stop and dilatation within pocket dimensions (Kwon was capable of stopping time and time dilatation is a common thing within the abyss, Berith prides himself in his knowledge, and likely knows this as well), Genius Intelligence

      Attack Potency: Likely Town level  (Should be only a twentieth of his full power) , possibly Small City level (Should only be half as strong as his 10%) | Town level (Should be only a tenth of his full power), possibly City level (Could make golems to match The President's own) | At least Large Town level (As a full powered god, he should be vastly superior to the Dancer of The Storm), likely Mountain level (Ten times more powerful than before) 

      Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Comparable to, if not faster than, the Dancer of The Storm) | Massively Hypersonic+ | Sub-relativistic+ (Should be superior to Han Jee-Han)

      Lifting Strength: Unknown, at least Class G with metal manipulation (Can make mountain sized golems out of metal)

      Striking Strength: Unknown, likely Small Town class | Unknown, likely Town class | Unknown, likely Large Town class 

      Durability: Unknown, likely Small Town level  (Even weaker sorcerers have  superhuman durability on such levels. Han Jee-Han believed a scud missile would be needed to kill enemies on his level) | Unknown, likely Town level (Should be only a tenth of his full power) | Unknown, likely Large Town level 

      Stamina: High

      Range: Extended melee range, at least several dozens of meters with metal

      Standard Equipment: Staff, horse

      Intelligence: Genius, lived and fought for thousands of years, is known as the creator of lies.

      Weaknesses: Cannot use more than 5% powers in the real world, and can only use 10% within pocket dimensions. Can only be summoned with sacrifices, and needs to kill the enemy to obtain their soul.

      Key: 5% | 10% | Full Power 

      Others

      Notable Victories:

      Notable Losses:

      Inconclusive Matches:

      Zagan
      Berith

      Powers and Stats

      Tier: At least 7-C, possibly Low 7-B | At least 7-C, possibly 7-B | At least High 7-C, likely 7-A

      Name: Zagan

      Origin: The Gamer

      Gender: Male

      Age: Thousands of years

      Classification: Demon God, Corrupted God

      Powers and Abilities: Fire Breath AttackFlight, Expert at Martial ArtsImmortality (Type 1, 3, and possibly 8 (May have immortality reliant on followers similar to the Arc Company)), Fire Aura, Regeneration (Mid-Low, likely Low-Godly over time. Immortals are described to have the weakness of being possible to kill if their soul is destroyed, implying that normal destruction is not enough to kill them), Likely Soul Manipulation (Should share this ability with fellow demons such as Berith), Resurrection (Once defeated, dissolves into a black mist and presumably returns to hell until summoned again)

      Attack Potency: Likely Town level  (Should be only a twentieth of his full power) , possibly Small City level (Should only be half as strong as his 10%) | Town level (Should be only a tenth of his full power), possibly City level (Should be comparable to Berith) | At least Large Town level (As a full powered god, he should be vastly superior to the Dancer of The Storm), likely Mountain level (Ten times more powerful than before) 

      Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Comparable to Berith) | Massively Hypersonic+ | Sub-relativistic+

      Lifting Strength: At least Class K (Much stronger than Berith) | Class G (Superior to Berith, who created 700 meter tall golems made out of metal) | Class G (10 times stronger than previously)

      Striking Strength: Likely Town class , possibly Small City class | Town class, possibly City class | At least Large Town class, likely Mountain class

      Durability: Likely Town level , possibly Small City level | Town level, possibly City level | At least Large Town level, likely Mountain level

      Stamina: High

      Range: Extended melee range

      Standard Equipment: None

      Intelligence: Expert martial artist, recognizes many just by seeing them. However, he is extremely bloodlusted, and doesn't seem very book smart.

      Weaknesses: Can only use up to 10% of his power outside of hell, if he goes into the real world he will be killed by Gaia's will.

      Key: 5% | 10% | Full Power 

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      Notable Losses:

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      Arc Company
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      Are those who try hard always rewarded? Are we always repaid for our sacrifices? The answer is 'no.'
      ~ -Arc Company to Jee-Han and crew

      Summary

      Originally known as The President, head of the Company, he desired Hwan Sung-Gon to become part of his hive-mind, so he kidnapped Seong-A, his daughter. After being stopped by Hwan Sung-Gong, Lolikiano, and Han Jee-Han, he proceeded to put his expenses into another plan, The Grand Labyrinth, an addictive video game trapping others within the game while they slept, making them believe that it was just a mere dream. The President gathered Idea energy from millions across the planet through this game and became a god through it. His current status is unknown, but as a god, his only desire is to maintain his people's faith in him, as well as uphold his principles: Revolution, Reward, and Pleasure.

      Powers and Stats

      Tier: At least 7-B, likely 7-A, up to Low 6-B over time

      Name: Arc Company

      Origin: The Gamer

      Gender: Possibly male, likely genderless

      Age: Unknown

      Classification: Formerly: The President, God of Revolution, Reward and Pleasure

      Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, likely has all The President's abilities, Resistance to Soul Manipulation (As an artificial god, he contains millions upon millions of souls within him), Absorption (His presence drains mana, depleting it completely within seconds), Dimension Creation, Immortality (Types 1, 3 and 8; As long as there are those who desire revolution, reward, or pleasure he cannot be destroyed), and regenerates (so quickly that he appears to not take damage at all; At least Low-Godly, likely Mid-Godly scaling from The President), Light Manipulation, Portal Creation, Law Manipulation, Reality Warping (Stated to warp reality while he is suppressing Gaia's will), Dream Manipulation (Can force people who play his video games into a pocket dimension), Power Bestowal (Can give powers obtained while within dreams and playing his videogame to his "Followers"), BFR (Can force people in and out of his pocket dimension), Creation (Creates several monsters, weapons and a dimension out of nothing) and minor Immersion through it (As long as enough people play the game, he can use their Idea magic to make parts of it [Like the necronomicon in Rise of Cthulhu], or the whole [The Great Labyrint is a pocket dimension base on the moblie game of the same name.] real), Power Nullification and Statistics Amplification (Made hundreds of 8-A soldiers 8-C), Forcefield Creation (around its body), Air Manipulation, True FlightInformation Analysis via insight, Insight can bypass Resistance to Information Analysis

      Attack Potency: At least City level (Created a dimension that was at least city-sized. Created the Grand Labyrinth which is composed of 99 floors. The combined volume of which is city-sized or greater), likely Mountain level (Should be comparable to Zagan and Berith), up to Small Country level over time (Should be able to achieve power comparable to Amaterasu, who's corpse could make an explosion large enough to kill everyone in the Korean penisula. This takes centuries to millenia to achieve, tough the amount of believers can decrease the time needed.) 

      Speed: At least Sub-relativistic+, likely much higher (vastly superior to Hwan Sung-Gon)

      Lifting Strength: Class G (Vastly superior to mountain sized buildings)

      Striking Strength: At least City class, likely Mountain class, up to Small Country class over time

      Durability: At least City level, likely Mountain level (Took no damage from Bora Jin's attacks, who herself is comparable to Hwan Sung-Gon), up to Small Country level over time

      Stamina: Unknown, likely extremely high due to the potency of idea power, as well as his stature of being a god

      Range: Dozens of meters with air and light manipulation, several hundred miles with law manipulation

      Standard Equipment: None, can create object from famous videogames like the necronomcon from a Cthulhu JRPG, Toothpick and many other items.

      IntelligenceNigh-Omniscient via Insight

      Weaknesses: Has yet to get used to his new powers as a god. As a god, he cannot defy what he represents and will be forced to grant others wishes as long as they worked hard enough for the wish and doesn't go against what he embodies (revolution, reward, and pleasure).

      Notable Attacks/Techniques:

      Insight: Allows gods to see past the essence of matter, information and history, working as Information Analysis

      Others

      Notable Victories:

      Notable Losses:

      Inconclusive Matches:

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    • Lol.

      Wow, nice. Looks good.

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    • By EOS Hwan will be retconned into a High 3-A  MFTL+ character with how things are going.

      He is still superior to Han despite only having half of his power, and the best thing back in season 1 was that scud missles would be needed to kill them.

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    • Right, lol

      Yeah. The author really ratcheted up the power of the verse. I think they have a more clear idea of what they're going to do with the story now. But still, Hwan gets stronger and stronger as time goes by.

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    • And yet, despite the obvious inconsistencies, we still have a regular increase in AP without living out any tiers...

      Lady luck is truly wonderfull.



      I'll release the changes now.

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    • Yeah. It really is a wonder.

      Sounds good.

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    • Ey Cob here, I'm rereading through the webtoon for fun. But gotta ask, is there a specific key style you guys want or is the current tabs we have for Jee-Han good enough? 

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    • I mean, they seem fine.

      It'll probably get crowded enough to make two profiles like with Naruto, but for now it seems fine enough.



      Tough, if you have sugestions, I'm all ears .

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    • Oh no idea for now, I'm just preparing the doc again and wondering if I can prepare a tab in advance for em. But in that case nvm for now! 

      And probably gonna try to find some good DC feats or upgrades through early chaps too jic.

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    • Alright. Sounds good.

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    • Just realized something. Should ID Barriers be good scales of how powerful someone can be? Considering some are expensive and hard to make? 

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    • Nope. Loli could make one that only someone 108 times above her could break. With prep, but she still coukd.

      The monsters strenght inside of it, sure, but no-one made anything impressive except Arc's group.

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    • Gotcha. Figured but I was hoping I was wrong lol. The only summoners and Jee-Han can usually make monsters that are real after all. Oh and at C49/ Season 1 Episode 49 rn but there's some mistakes that I'm noticing on the profile. Very minor.

      Missing invisibility for Jee-Han on Pre1 Tier, Minor Precog (he detected something was wrong if he did something)

      I'm also confident on saying that everyone is definitely Large Building level by scaling of +60 power (It's supposed to be strength but there are some odd translations)

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    • That would count as enhanced senses I'm pretty sure.

      Also, mistranslations? Are you reading on webtoons?

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    • Yeah, webtoons changed the stats names a lot. 

      Like strenght to power, dexterity to speed, vitality to HP (Yeah, they actually called it HP). Webtoons is still done by fans. Hell, I made some of the italian translations.

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    • Yup. Reading on webtoons. The weird part is they changed HP to Strength actually so it gets a bit more confusing. Which makes it all the more confusing. Gah.

      And eyy nice, didn't know you can do that for Webtoons. 

      But yeah for now definitely Invisibility due to the Ogre Hat. 

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    • Got a 500 ton calc for the Giant Golem of the alchemists..

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    • MCB?? Link it up?

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    • Never mind, it's 3 kilotons.

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    • Also gonna point out that this golem, like the first ones Han meets, is likely a glasscanon.

      It was getting damaged from Han, and it not breaking itself apart can be explained away by 1) in-verse there are several characters that have strenght and endurance that divererge greatly. 2) It has immunity to non magical damage, likely it's own weight included. 3) Plot.

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    • Small Town in that case I think to whoever can wipe it out entirely. 

      And honestly... I used to think it's just that it is that sturdy, but it also regenerates from the Earth with magic. Cause they're still supporting their entire form with magic as you said. 

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    • Small Town is the tier given from a certain level of energy output, which is why someone like Sun-Il can get tier 7 despite hardly having the range to destroy a large town.



      something that big punching would indeed generate as much energy as a bomb that destroys a small town.

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    • Despite having? Do you mean despite not having? 

      Hmm, yeah Jee-Han might not as scale as well initially. Having Large Building would be enough to do slight damage to MCB. Once I get to that chap I'll do a onceover. We need more grander scale fights like this 

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    • Yeah.

      Also, remade it since the golem never full on sprints. MCB at 250 tons.

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    • These golems really give us everything. From lifting strength to AP, they're really putting in work.

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    • Yeah, size is really OP right now.

      They gave us 8-B/8-A, low 7-C+/7-C, Low 7-B/7-B/7-A.... 

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    • Class K and Class M as well.

      They even contributed to High 8-C when you think about it.

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    • And at this point it's only a matter of time that Han's golems get some crazy skills and feats.

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    • I'm sure they will. He'll make some kind of "boss golem" that will do the fighting for him. His golems basically solo anyone reliant on purely physical skills.

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    • And he has hundreds of them to boot.

      Been going through some of the stuff, and I wonfer what the other members of the 9 gates (America, Italy, China, India, England, Russia, Germany and France)  will be like. Korea has it's own artifacts, so I imagine they do to.

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    • Like, China has gods and religious stuff more than abbundantly, so that's that for their artifacts.

      Italy I imagine is for Greko-Roman gods.

      The rest tough? I have no idea.

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    • That's what has me most curious. The fact that we've only really seen 1 out of the 9 gates.

      I'm also super disappointed that there's not a single African or South American country included in the 9 gates. They have some very rich lore, philosophy, and religions to pull from.

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    • India is probably fairly simple to imagine as well. Multi limbed gods and goddesses.

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    • I mean, America might be for all of america, much like how Korea is both south and north.

      But yeah, too bad for that.


      I also wonder how the Frenchmen, Italians and Germans got that powerful. You would think loosing a world war would set the latter two back quiet a bit even in the abyss, and the former isn't that impressive as far as folklore and such goes.

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    • Perhaps. But many rarely mean all of America. North, South, and Latin. There haven't been any latin or south American references. And the fact that there will likely be no Egyptian gods at the very least is, well...disappointing.

      No clue. They might just have a few people who are that strong whom would be unaffected by such a thing. Like the Harem King.

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    • I mean, sure, but why frenchmen? Might be my bias for being forced to study the language, but meh.

      I wonder if they'll go into christian stuff. And if yes, I can already imagine what something like would be like.

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    • Yeah, that is rather curious.

      I'd imagine the Christian stuff would be related to the US presumably.

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    • Maybe? The whole Vatican being in Rome makes me doubt that.

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    • That's fair. I'm not sure what it would be in that case.

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    • I just hope the author does.

      I feel many of his ideas got mutated to the point that they are hardly even comparable.

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    • I do too.

      Same here. That would explain certain things about the story. But they certainly had some things planned out that have showed themselves, like the Seeker of Truth.

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    • Allright, we ought to update some profiles again.

      Yoohwa and Kwon get energy based Intangibilty.

      Han gets power modification, should've gotten it a long time ago. Anyone with the ability to make dishwashing into a stat amplifying activity, evolve abilities when they peak at lv 99, and make JoJo poses actually dangerous deserves it.

      Fusionism of abilities with Taji's Two Wills.

      He made it clear that he can use thought speed acceleration as well, and yoohwa proved that the time accel and this stack, so we ought to discuss whenever or not jt should actually be counted for him


      Ice Manipulation through his new martial arts skills.

      Info Analysis can now give him weaknesess of enemies.

      His crafting skill should also be updated.

      Kwon can now use ive manio thanks to learning those as well as being immune to pain while made out of energy. She can also use her spiritualization pretty freely.

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    • Yeah, I agree with everything here.

      I guess I'd rather wait until the webtoons translation for some things, just to verify how exactly they work. But I mean, this stuff is all pretty evident.

      I'm not sure about the intangibility though. Yoohwa still got hit by physical attacks. So maybe just describe it as resistance to physical attacks, but leave an explanation as to why.

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    • I guess it's more akin to the golems immunity, where all damage is just redone unless it's charged with magical energy, except black flame makes them resistant to magic.

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    • Yeah, that seems more likely. Though the golems have at least elemental intangibility.

      They just, nope physical attacks for whatever reason. I guess them being pure energy is the explanation.

      Man, if we had some Low 7-C brackets, I'd nominate Yoohwa, and nope she'd be allowed.

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    • IIRC Spiritualitzation is almost certanly being upped to 7-C. It should be at least equal to black flame multiplyer.

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    • As for letting her in the bracket, her summoning is a bit too much. Even having a single other member is much, having at least another 2 people with her (Swordsman and Guildmaster) and having healing and mindhax is just too broken.

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    • But I mean, both her forms are rated as Low 7-C, Likely 7-C for the time being.

      I mean, they could always just restrict her summons. But she really only does that when it's not a one on one situation.

      And her mindhax is pretty unlikely to happen.

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    • Well... yeah, but it will be changed in a week or two at most. Hell, it would make sense to do so now (Though, they could restrict it because 'higher tier skill')

      Not really. Restricting summoning like that is against the rules, and while they could, there is not much point in it. And she does summon plenty, it just so happens that as far as we know she had no other people on Han's level that weren't power absorbed.

      Yeah, it was more of an afterthought.

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    • True.

      That's also true. Man...

      I gotcha.

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    • In the future I'll be able to talk to you guys about these stuff again ;;



      Quick check, some minor feats but can shockwave/gale feats be calced? The giant golem's shockwaves from his punches can push away Jee-Han from about a block away. Also, I'm fairly confident that the tankiness of the golem is legit. A lesser one can take hits from a mana spiral bomb and still go on without regenning. 

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    • This one was litirally hurt by a Mana Bomb, and tanking a High 8-C attack is hardly impressive for it.

      And while they can, sending a human flying isn't above 8-A.

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    • I'm pretty sure sending a human flying is like, maybe 9-B depending on the human and how far/fast they went.

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    • @Risci 

      To clarify, the one I'm talking about is the small one shaking off the attack that each has 5 mages.

      The big guy needed a 10 second charge while the smaller ones that didn't even have mages were the ones pulverized I think.

      Figured. Those feats aren't usually impressive. Just keeping track of em right now.

      So wait what stat was settled on for the golem pulverization? 

      @Lit

      Gotcha, Jee-Han wasn't really sent flying but then again he was using defenses.

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    • He meant it with the wind created by your attacks.

      Which, IIRC, should be impossible plain, but theoretical calcs are hardly impressive unless there is something broken by the wind.

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    • I'm pretty sure the golem pulverization was High 8-C.

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    • Ciruno Fortes wrote:
      @Risci 

      To clarify, the one I'm talking about is the small one shaking off the attack that each has 5 mages.

      The big guy needed a 10 second charge while the smaller ones that didn't even have mages were the ones pulverized I think.

      Figured. Those feats aren't usually impressive. Just keeping track of em right now.

      So wait what stat was settled on for the golem pulverization? 

      I know, but the little one was actually more impressive as fast as tanking went. The giant one was damaged by the attack.

      Yeah.

      Hm.

      High 8-C at over 3 tons of tnt worh of power.

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    • Also, are you two reading Solo Leveling?

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    • Rechecked the fight, there doesn't seem to be any body parts falling apart. They kept the entire thing sturdy for sure. We couldn't be sure of how much damage the little one took because it wasn't displayed but it probably dealt more damage. I think the focus though is how it was able to keep its body together. 

      There's also the vote of confidence by the main leader saying they could take in the force of the attacks of Jee-Han. And that was with him amped up by the two extra wands. So uh, I think it's less about being a glass cannon basically. 

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    • Solo Leveling? I don't think so. Unless you mean Hardcore Leveling Warrior.

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    • Litentric Teon wrote:
      Solo Leveling? I don't think so. Unless you mean Hardcore Leveling Warrior.

      Here. Somewhat like The Gamer, but it's far more brutal.

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    • Ciruno Fortes wrote:
      Rechecked the fight, there doesn't seem to be any body parts falling apart. They kept the entire thing sturdy for sure. We couldn't be sure of how much damage the little one took because it wasn't displayed but it probably dealt more damage. I think the focus though is how it was able to keep its body together. 

      There's also the vote of confidence by the main leader saying they could take in the force of the attacks of Jee-Han. And that was with him amped up by the two extra wands. So uh, I think it's less about being a glass cannon basically. 

      Yeah, but the point is that the giant golem stepping releases as much energy as a mana bomb.

      It's attacks are 8-A, over a 100 times stronger than Han's own. It's a glass canon because Han can slightly hurt it, but it still has an attack far superior to Han.

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    • Thank you.

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    • @Risci  (Solo levelling) I bookmarked it but not yet. I have been reading Dungeon Master though.

      (Feat) That's probably not true. The steps would be the same as before with its weight. Considering how the mages can form barriers around them or make the rocks harder, it could be connected to that. The attack Han did to it might be more like a toddler throwing a punch at you. It stings a little and enough of it might knock you out but in the end you can oneshot said toddler. 

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    • No. That is just wrong.

      It's steps release that much energy period, anything that big releases that much energy by walking.

      As for the attacks, also wrong. His HP took a notable, if small, dip. Someone who is a hundredfitieth of your power should not be able to do that.

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    • I mean, to be fair, the gap between High 8-C and 8-A is anywhere from like 50-200x.

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    • It's 262 tons against Han's 5 tons at most. It's a bit too big, if you ask me.

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    • That's still High 8-C vs 8-A. Despite the big dip, Han being a literal hundredth of the golem's power is eerily consistent.

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    • Yeah.

      I'm just saying that it being hurt by Han kinda implies it's dura is not up to match, much like how the smallest golems he vaped has 100 in strenght and 50 in endurance.

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    • True. And I don't exactly disagree. But it could honestly go either way and have the explanation be similarly plausible in each instance.

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    • Well, yeah.

      Also, I've been thinking, but does Loli really have tier 7 strenght with normal attacks? While she was damaging the thing pretty freely, she wasn't exactly blasting them to death with ease, and all her stronger magic relies on life enrgy.

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    • I mean, didn't the guy have an advantage against her for being considered an undead? I just thought her magic was inherently weaker against him the way a grass type is weak to a fire type.

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    • Pretty sure the weakness was them being immune to life absorption because they are dead, not having reduced damage from her.

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    • Ah, I gotcha.

      I guess that means that all of her attacks would be weaker if they can't absorb life energy. But I mean, her mana was comparable to Han's for a good portion of the Church of Masks Arc. She did manage to beat a bunch of their members, destroy a good portion of the company, and was suggested to be capable of harming the CEO. I think the lower end of Low 7-C, 2.2 kilotons is fine for her.

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    • Rechecked, the small golems he took out and the calc. It's not clear how much he charged up but at the same time, when he attacked the giant golem, his energy was wiped to the point that he had to retreat and rest for 20 minutes. He was just fighting someone earlier but at the same time Jee-Han's recovery was already much better than before. His charge up of 10 seconds was also more emphasized so I think this attack is highly likely be stronger than the one he used on the smaller enemies. 

      Consistency is key here as Lit says too.



      Yeah the battle incompatibility with elements hurts her. At the same time her regular attacks aren't exactly weak. But the moment she managed to fight back properly she wiped out several blocks. She was also harming it so there's justification on how she can deal damage. 

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    • I guess that Loli is pretty variable. Since she can augment herself heavily with life energy to go from dealing less than moderate damage to one shotting an opponent.

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    • Yeah, but she rarely uses all of her mana like Han due to not having his broken regen. Enough so that she could keep up a fight for at least 30 minutes without running out. And she did say he surpassed him before the meteor.

      The church members she beat were having problems with Kwon before she absorbed her mother, so I doubt that they are all that powerful.

      And the whole company was giving away life energy like candy.

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    • Oh, it was before the meteor? I thought it was after. I'm probably misremembering.

      I mean, members of the church aren't anything to sneeze at, especially when they were amping themselves.

      True. I wouldn't call it giving away, but I guess at the end they did turn out to be nothing but money regardless.

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    • Eh regardless...



      On an unrelated note, I'm totally making a match between Solo Leveling and Han. 

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    • Does Solo Levelling have a profile yet?

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    • Nope, but I'm putting it together I'm putting it together .

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    • Sweet, and stats looks like he could fight well. But not against Jee-Han for now. Won't check that too much in detail so I won't get spoiled.



      Oh on another note, doesn't Lolikiano have some sort of death magic? It looks like she just offed some people with a spell in c71

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    • Pretty sure he could, but I'll keep that for later.

      That was life absorption.

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    • Oh true. But it still ignored a level of durability I'd say. Says it can only be resisted by magic or being on a higher threshold of power. At least a good anti weaker power. Ahh, Lord Farqaad makes a return

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    • Oh, it does to an extent. She does say somewhere around those chapters that people much stronger than her nope it tough.

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    • Eyup. Not just her statements, the narration itself lol.

      And looking back at the previous fights, it might be an option to nerf Loli witch and her demon fellows and bear friend to MCB or lower. Would make the scaling to Jee-Han still consistent. 

      Edit - Then again I can't really go against a calc and I'm not against keeping em at Town

      Edit Edit - Still love the fact that Hell has internet and games.

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    • Ah, then nevermind. The plot is far too over the place to trust it OvO.

      Well, I think she's probably at least that normally, and Low 7-C with her full charge.

      To the edit, the calc doesn't contradict you much.

      To the edit edit, I love the fact that there is a god that feeds of off videogames more.

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    • Are you saying not even the narration is trustable!? Not the Speed of Light Arrow then!

      With all the charge up combo from the Druid... is there any way to calculate the tree growth? I think this was asked before but prob not right?

      Oh sweet! But yeah gonna finish up all my findings in a doc (He said 10 years ago) but yeah so far there might be one good feat of the demon bull wiping a good chunk of the forest. 

      WHAT!? WHAT!? IS THIS FOR REAL!? I have a new god to follow then!!

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    • That was Gaia. And with my newfound giantess fetish (As said above, all the golem calcs but the high 8-C one rely on a site that tells you how big a giantesses genitalia would be. So I got very intimate with the fetish.), she's the most trustable person. 

      Not really. I guess I could try to make an area where he grew and assume a 90% hollowness tough.

      Hmm.

      Good old Arc. He even makes items from games... like the necronomicon... from cthulhu mythos

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    • Good taste my friend. I needed that context lol. But that's surprising. Sometimes, you just get the most beneficial calcs and information from dick sites : D But yeah I think the narration is still at least very trustable. Aka I agree

      That could be a good option. If it doesn't work out, ah well. So no rush on that.

      I spoiled myself and took a peek. Isn't that the god that Jee-Han talk no jutsued? Didn't know he was a gamer too..

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    • So that's how you pumped out those calcs so quickly risci? I'm dying.

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    • Litentric Teon wrote:
      So that's how you pumped out those calcs so quickly risci? I'm dying.

      Yep.

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    • Made a Solo Leveling profile, and I'm totally making it fight a Modern End and Odds Golems.

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    • crappy wifi last night for some reason, glad I saved my post before I went to sleep instead of waiting. Edit - Also, that's a legit useful calculator



      He must have the Gamer Ability Calc.

      Finished season 1 while I was waiting for maintenance for FGO (Spoiler. Maintenance never ends). But it seems some highlights are the high possibility of hypersonic high tiers to MHS due to the use of lightning. Some guy has an ability to "teleport through lightning" or I'm assuming he becomes lightning to move around. Then there's the whole attack with lightning bolts thing going on. But if those aren't accepted, dodging or reacting to explosions seems consistent.

      Some minor stuff, pretty sure Jee-Han should have Statistic Amplification due to Party Creation and 3 principles skill (Chuunbiyou or something?). Resistance to phys attacks due to phys endurance. Invisibility due to equipment.

      And, Jee-Han resisted the President Commanding him to fall unconscious and suffer from pain.



      Not saying the revisions should be done now but I'm just sharing em now in case anyone else wants to check what I saw. Unless you guys already checked. Anyway wiped out sogngith

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    • For speed, there is a good lightning dodge done in season 4 with the church of masks, which I calced at mach 2200. (MHS+)

      Stat amping he should have, yeah (Chuunbu I think. What you wrote is a Japanese name for middleschoolers being delusional and thinking they have superpowers). He has the ability, but we should add resistance to physical attacks in the powers and abilities section, yeah.  Invisibility too.

      I'll look at that.

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    • Pretty sure the faint thing was more him threatening Han moreso than an actual Law Manip comandment.

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    • Sweet, though in general what ranks are the Chruch of Masks? If the'yre lower than top tiers the likes of our shades dad here would be bumped up.

      (Pssh, close enough. Same thing Jee-Han has). Thankies. That should be enough for season 1, stats seem 

      Darn, ah well worth a shot.

      There might be some weapon immunity that the golems have just like how Fate is immune to modern weapons or anything without magic too. Stat wise I agree with everything. Seems about right

      Also something I noticed in the Gamer section... 

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    • Depends by what ranking you go. In general AP it mostly goes like this:

      God Tiers:

      Gaea (5-B, possibly High 3-A)

      Top tiers:

      Harem King (At least Low 6-B)

      Old Gods (Like Amaterasu, her corpse is Low 6-B)

      New Gods (Arc company only for now. 7-A)

      Fallen Gods (Berith and Zagan, amongst the other 72. At least High 7-C, likely 7-A)

      High Tiers:

      Celestial thousand (Like Seeker of Truth, 7-B)

      Companies/Pillars (Like The President, Low 7-B o 7-B)

      Seonin Shin (At least High 7-C, likely High 7-C+)

      Shin Sun-Il (At least High 7-C, likely High 7-C+)

      Kwon (At least High 7-C)

      Han Jee-Han (At least High 7-C, though he's more haxed)

      Church of Masks (Varies from 8-A to at least 7-C)

      Dragoniak (7-C)

      Mid-Tiers

      Odds and Ends golems (Black Rock alchemists, High 8-C to 8-A)

      Kim Yoo-Yin (Class Pres, High 8-C)

      Low tiers:

      Most monsters (9-B to 8-B)

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    • If it helps I didn't really make anything concrete in terms of Tiers. I just listed what this feat looks like and they're actually lower than the current existing feats. But I did use the "Possibly City Block" levels

      Can't make a proper judgement rn but yup that all sounds about right on what I'm seeing. 

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    • Yeah, no problem.

      How weird it is that a size for giantesess fetish, a site for indexing character and a webtoon are getting me to become good at math.

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    • The wonders of the internet lol

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    • I also binged the first like 40 chapters of solo leveling warrior. But I haven't caught up to the most recent chapter so I'll hold off on looking at the profile for now.

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    • It is only up to the class change right now.

      Though, I'm guessing you enjoyed it if you binged it?

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    • Heck yeah I did.

      If it's only up to the job change then I might be able to take a look. I didn't see any noticeable feats that were above tier 9. But also, I was reading more so for enjoyment as opposed to looking for things.

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    • Gonna point out that the manga and the lightnovel diverge to an extreme.

      Light Novel has a golem the wizards during his class change summon a golem that makes earthquacke by stepping (It was only, like, 4 in potency, but that still is OP as all hell).

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    • Will probably make a different profile for manga, since it changed quiet a bit.

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    • Alright. It makes sense to have a profile for both.

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    • Also forgot to share the doc

      Very much a mess lol but it should help for some early feats.

      Promising to comment on that once I get to reading it ;;

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    • Wow, that doc is seriously impressive.

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    • Han's profile is also kinda outdated. He doesn't even hace healing and stat amps as a power, and his crafting skill is claimed to be low-level.

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    • And yeah, the doc is oretty neat.

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    • Yeah. We mostly just need to update his abilities section and put in loads of tabbers. I don't mind doing such, I just won't be able to do so until the end of this week.

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    • I on the other hand have a mostly free week.

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    • Ah. Well, if you would like to take care of it please, feel welcome to.

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    • Alright.

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    • I'll use this post, and update it, with some changes to Han then.

      Han Jee-Han Render
      I remember my so-called fellow video-game loving "Netizens" saying this. "Wouldn't it be great if life were just like a game?!" What if everyone had levels above their heads and I could find out my EXP. Points and set my status however I want? But to to tell you the truth, if you were to ask me if I'd enjoy this, I would say: No. Not at all.
      ~ Jee-Han's opening narration

      Summary

      Han Jee-Han was an ordinary high school student who was addicted to Korean MMORPGs. One fateful day, he suddenly gained the ability to interact with the world around him as if it were one of his beloved video games. This quickly drags him into the Abyss, the supernatural underground world that lays the foundation for modern society as we know it. Jee-Han soon finds that he'd better start grinding if he wishes to survive this tumultuous environment, lest he be hunted down for his surprisingly valuable ability.

      Powers and Stats

      Tier:

      Name: Han Jee-Han, The Gamer, Undead Executioner

      Origin: The Gamer

      Gender: Male

      Age: 18

      Classification: Human, Natural Ability User, Magician, Tutor, Chunbu Spirit Specialist

      Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Minor Reality Warping and Power Modification with game mechanics, Non-Physical Interaction (Can hit intangibles with mana and ki, be they elemental, non-corporeal, phasing or even made out of pure energy.), Information Analysis with Observe, Stat Amping (Via Tear Off,  ), Reactive Evolution (Certain experiences lead him to developing skills like physical endurance and bloodlust sense), Pocket Reality ManipulationEnergy Manipulation (Through Mana Power Attack, ), Healing (Can even heal the soul, reduce negative mental effects (from simply anxiety to forcefully being put to sleep by magic) and many other staus effects), Resistance (To physical damage via Physical Endurance, Mind Manipulation with Gamer's Mind, ), 

      Attack Potency: 

      Speed: 

      Lifting Strength: 

      Striking Strength: 

      Durability: 

      Stamina: 

      Range: 

      Standard Equipment: 

      Weapons:

      Cheon-Bu's Sword: Attack power increases by 20% while wielding it. As it has energy specifically crafted into it, it can hit Intangibles.



      Intelligence: 

      Weaknesses: 

      Notable Attacks/Techniques:

      The Gamer: The power bestowed to him by Gaia, it allows him, and to an extent his surroundings, to work like a videogame.

      • Gamer's Mind: Grants immunity to mental impairments, from his own emotions to mind manipulation.
      • Gamer's Body: Allows his body to work by videogame logic, allowing him to level up, better train with weights strapped to his body, have his body unchanged despite being heavily damaged (Such as punching a hole in him) and not needing to eat and sleep (Although the former makes him feel tired).
        • HP: Short for Health Points/Hit Points, it represents how much damage Han can take before dying. All damage done to his body disappear, instead decreasing his HP.
        • MP: Standing for Mana Points/Magic Points, it is the cumulative energy within him. It is akin to a "composite" energy, being composed of mana, ki, chakras and other versions of it. It can be used as a substitute for skills that would require another type of energy.
        • Consumable Items: Even items that are normal gain some supernatural properties if he (or those in a party with him) consumes them. even bread can heal health, and medicines take effect immediately.
        • Sleeping: After sleeping, all negative status effects, as well as all health and mana, wil be restored.
      • Titles: Certain feats and achievements can gain him a title, which gives him boosts depending on the achievement.
        • Apprentice Undead Slayer: After killing 50 zombies, all stats increase by 5, and AP and durability increases by 30% while fighting.
      • Inventory: A way to store his equipment, he can instantly equip clothes from within it, and anything stored is frozen in time.
      • Skill Creation: Repeating actions enough times can create a skill specific to them, acting as a passive stat amp that allows him to do them more effectively, faster and more naturally. It can be an overly specific skill like dishwashing to an overly broad one like crafting.
      • Dungeons: Whenever he creates or enters an illusory reality it becomes real, with some minor changes. For example: A normal illusory reality spawned monster cannot hurt someone, as the don't really exist. However, if Han were to enter the reality, the monster would become capable of damaging, and if enough of said "mob" are slain there is a possibility for a boss to appear. 
      • Looting System: When he defeas an enemy, be it through killing them or knocking them out, he obtains mainly three things: EXP, items and money. The amount and quality of all three depends on the enemy slain. Items more oten than not reflect the enemy to an extent (A skillbook that teaches "Life Absorb" from a zombie, gaunlets that low underwater breathing from a turtle boss, etc.) tough some items often drop regardless of the type of enemy (HP/MP potions and spirit stones)
        • Skill Books: Books describing how certain abilities work can be absorbed by Han, obtaining the skill described within as long as it is a factual observation and not just theory. Depending the skills, it often has a minimum stat requirement to learn.

      Skills:  Physical Skills:

      • Weapon Skills:
        • Blunt Weapon Mastery: Increases skill while using blunt weapon, as well as increasing speed (by 10%) and damage (by 30%).
        • Sword Mastery: Increases skill while using swords, as well as increasing speed (by 10%) and damage (by 30%).
        • Spear Mastery: Increases skill while using spears, as well as increasing speed (by 10%) and damage (by 30%).
      • Martial Arts:
        • Yeon-Hon Principle: Can heal 50 HP and 50 MP. MP for those not in his party registers as whatever enegy they might use, such as Hwan's energy from hell. It also heals or decreases negative status effects.
        • Cheon-Bu's Three Principles:  A skill that absorbs the enrgy from the world around and stores it in the user, permanently increasing their strenght, as well as alowing them to overcome limits. Increases strenght, speed, durability, memorization and healing by 10% at all times, and increases strenght, speed and durability by 30% while actively using it. Also alows the ability of infusing attacks with Ki, alowing to hit several types of Intangibles.
        • Cheon-Bu's Swordsmanship: Increases skill with sword. Sword strikes become 20% stronger, and swords can be imbued with Ki. 
        • Cheon-Bu's Fist Control: Increase skill in martial arts, as wel as increasing bare handed attack power and speed by 20%. 
        • Cheon-Bu's Feet Control: Passively increases speed by 25%, and increases it by 50% while concentrating Ki.
        • Cheon-Bu's External Energy Control: Alows to manipulate and absorb energy from the world around. Passively increases all stats but luck, stamina and it's regeneration, and HP and it's regeneration by 10%. Can also increase MP and stats permanently by meditating and taking in the energy of the world, tough this takes hours.
      • Miscellaneous:
        • Tear Off: Increases tearing strength by 30%.
        • Physical Endurance: Reduces physical damage by 5%.
        • Critical Hit: Chance to land a critical hit, increasing damage by 30%.
        • Strong Hit: Increases damage by 50%, and increases critical damage bonus by 150%. 

      Magic:

      • Mana Power Attack: Creates a ball of mana fired at a max range of 10 meters. Power depends on the users inteligence.

      Miscellaneous:

      • Observe: Can see the HP, MP and a brief description of an enemy.
      • Create/Escape Instant Dungeon: Allows Han to create pocket realities and escape them. The properties of the pocket reality varies:
        • Empity Dungeon: A dungeon completly empity of people except Han himself, and whoever he may chose to bring into it.
      • Crafting: Alows one to craft object more effectively. At a low level, it isn't very useful, but at higher levels it can instantly create items of incredible magical power. At the current level, Han can only make clay sculptures and other easy to make items instantly.


      Key: Pre-Lolikiano Training 

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    • Looks good. Organizing them by key seems nice, but I have no clue how we'd do something like that.

      Actually, nevermind. We'd just have to label the tabbers accordingly. Looks solid.

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    • Though I guess you'll also be adding things like his mana barrier, mana shackles, spiral mana bomb, and spinning mana arrows to that key as well.

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    • Thankies at doc, will likely recheck it since my first half venture isn't really detailed. 

      And also love that.

      But yeah I think we can just detail out the Lvl at what season minimum or the difference? If we make multiple tabs it might get way too difficult to read for phone users too. Unless they changed that and I'm unaware of..

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    • I honestly wouldn't even bother with the level of the abilities. I'd just include their description and how they're used.

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    • I wasbplanning on dividing them in tabbers anfor keys and updaring accordingly.

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    • Also, seems like the author decided that a 15 times speedamp is now the best Han can do. So speed downgrade...

      ... but reaction upgraade since we're there. He could think while light was coming at him, and saying that he's toutght speed is 10 times greaater than his combat speed seems perfectly fine.

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    • Wild, lol.

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    • Oh no I wouldn't say like split them all into lvls. All I'm saying is when we swap to the next tab or to show a difference in season, we can say the level if it was ever stated. 

      His thought speed is 10x greater than combat speed.... he can think while light is heading towards him..

      Clearly Han is SoL!

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    • I really love how Han was more concerned about experience than his friend's well being.

      Also, Han has a new form of madness manip. And that AoE mind manip is actually him attacking the consciousness of everything in the area, though it requires some prep.

      And Sun-il's attack actually cut through space, so he should have durability negation.

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    • He summons an imaginary monster that attacks your mind to boot. Tough, you need to observe it.

      I also like how he can now justmake a magical artifact worth probably millions on the fly, just like that.

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    • Also, about Han's mom, it's later clarified that stats can be faked in season 4, and Han even thinks about his mom at that moment.

      I really hope Harem dude isn't his father....

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    • Data manipulation right there imo.

      Also man everyone's amped up. I can't wait for God of the highschool level to be reached.

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    • I realized that editing on a profile on a massege is hell, so here is a blog for it.

      And the old gods are already Low 6-B, so it's only a matter of time for Han to scale.

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    • Also, if there is something with the profile re-works, please comment here. I won't get notified if you comment on the blog.

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    • Whoa, just realised several things.



      First of all, The President attacked Hwan because of Seeker of Truth and co. They claim to have spread info about how he heals his daughter and all, so it's their fault.

      Second of all, they do resist time stop. Beyond it being such a basic skill that Shin was suggesting to use it just to cheat on school tests, he also casually talks of when Han and Kwon went to talk. Something akin to "yeah, you went to talk with Kwon in the time-stop space, right?". He was at school at that time, so he would've been time stopped unless he could resist it. That, and Hwan was still conscious while the president commanded him to stop, despite him claiming to control time as well.

      Third of all, Han has Gnome out passively at all times in his first key.

      Fourth of a- I'll just drop the of all here... Regardless, the Mana Spiraling Bomb gives a 800% AP increase, so Han and some others backscale to 8-C sadly. On a brighter note, it means that Legion Zombie and the guardian odds and end golems scale to 8-C in dura, meaning that we are back to the linear scaling going through every tier from 8-C to High 7-C.

      And fifth, the author somehow believes that Han, the one with the calculating speed of a quantum computer and memorization skills thousands of times that of a human, would have problems with math but find English easy. New weakness?

      Excuse
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    • Weakness: Math

      Most relatable MC.

      also that's a lot of feats damn, seriously impressed. 

      Where did you find all of those?? Throughout s1 ? Or more?

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    • Depends which.

      The first was season one. They first talk about losing the sorcerers stone (Han, you're a wizard... That Harry Potter joke was just itching to come out), and then mention how the witch of slaughter, her druid and black death are a problem, so Seeker of Truth sells 100 copies of what Hwan is doing to treat his daughter.

      The second is season 2, yeah. I don't remember the specific chapters tough, but time-stop is a pretty basic thing if it can be used to simply cheat at tests. It's only used on-screen once by Kwon when she speaks with Han at school, but Han does use it of-screen to get home in time. Shin mentions the "cheat on the tests with time stop" the same chapter he mentions how there are fake companies to explain where Han's money is coming from, instead of getting an actual job. Somewhere between episode 30 and 50.

      The thrid is mentioned multiple times, but he mentions how he gets enough MP regen to keep her on 24/7 when he decides to dump all his points into INT.

      As for the last, that was season 2 me-thinks. 

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    • Oh, and the 800% thing for the Mana Spiraling thing, it's when he obtains the skill.

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    • WhyMathTho
      Ep.52
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    • This all looks good.

      Though I thought we had already established that his stats don't scale linearly. 8x weaker means his arrows literally shouldn't harm enemies that his spiral mana bomb can, yet this isn't the case. While weaker, they still do cause a decrease in the enemy's health bar. And Han uses his arrows far more, so the skill level for the arrows is likely higher. I think him staying at High 8-C is fine. Going with the calcs we have is a safer bet, since we can already prove with them that his stats don't scale linearly.

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    • It has nothing to do with stats here. It increases damage by 800%, and that is pretty clear cut, stats are a whole nother beast. Not only that, but most enemies he damages normally with his attacks get one-shotted pretty badly by spirallig bomb.

      If he had 800% stat amping in anything, he would have gotten many more powers through stat landmarks.

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    • So, for Transmutation resistance.

      The iron golems of Berith's are A- in grade, while Kwon by the end of season 2 is only B class (Also, she needs to get a new key for 1st season. She was only High 8-C there)

      They all should be strong enough to resist it by Low 7-C and on, since Loli is S class at Low 7-C.

      Han also has a passive that increases resistance to magic by 5%, but that is hardly notable.

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    • I see. But despite what it says the feat shows something different. At least against the large golem from the black rock mage sect. Plus Han also gets a good deal stronger since the feat, so I still believe High 8-C to be fine for Han during the first season.

      Where did they resist transmutation again? Like, what chapter? I know the dudes from the company didn't resist it. Though I guess this begs the question, do they resist transmutation or magic?

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    • Which ones? The ones he one-shot he never used normal attack on, the medium sized ones tanked both and needed the wizards to be defeated, and he leveled up four times before fighting the giant one. That, and a bullet can make 1 HP damage to him, so I imagine chip damage is a thing, especially with high penetration the arrows have. Plus, his body still scales to High 8-C with Three Princliples, which he could keep on 24/7, so his fights aren't even affeced.

      Episode 74. The point is that anyone above a certain level should resist it. Also, it's "mana resistance", and mana is everything at this point. It attacc, it protecc, and it has every hax under the sun. Plus, pretty sure we also scale it due to verse equal, assuming that similiar powers can be resisted.

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    • I mean...I guess so? The golem I'm talking about is the one Loli and the druid defeated. His arrows did enough to cause him to be a target, where as his spiral mana bomb didn't achieve that. And if he leveled up that should give more credibility to the arrows being stronger, since he likely used those points to upgrade his INT. Like, end of season 1 Han likely has around baselineish High 8-C arrows, and a stronger spiral mana bomb.

      Yeah, I suppose that's correct. Though there's also things like internal energy for martial artists, which can produce a variety of elemental affects. And also pave the way into these various, "Mind techniques" which seem to do various things.

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    • What? I might be remebering wrong, but they sent the medium sized ones after him because of the spiralling bomb. The spiraling bomb that took away, like, a fourth of the things HP.

      I mean, for Han that still is Mana, tough that is more his powers gimmick than anything else.



      Also, mind looking the blog over, finished reading season 1, so types and such would need to be corrected, after which I would proceed to the other keys.

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    • I could also be misremembering. But I reread the fight last week. The bomb only did 10%.

      Yeah, Han's energy source is like the combination of every energy in verse.

      Of course.

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    • I love how Han has his personal verse equalizer as a power.

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    • Yeah, lol. His power is the ability to really do anything, and bypass the time required to do so.

      And the blog looks fantastic. Excellent work.

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    • Thanks. Also, looked at the new chapter fantranslation.

      Did the dude block and imaginary monster with a mana barrier?

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    • And turn it to sand? Yes, yes he did.

      Some more Non-physical interaction?

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    • Alright, so...

      Non-corporeal ghosts, elementals, pure energy (Beyond Kwon and co., Han doesn't actually solidify curses. He can just blast them, without using special skills), and purely imaginary beings that Kwon and Sun could apparently not sense.

      Wellthen, we really only need spatial to have it all.

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    • I suppose so. Unless there's some other weird form of being Non-corporeal out there aside from being abstract.

      I like that Han has two new ways to mind manip now. And that he can literally attack the consciousness of an entire area, lol.

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    • But of course he can. Also, seems like we get some nice Enhanced Senses feat in the newest chapter, the korean raw. Kwon seems to just move around as if not everything was black.

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    • Let's talk about the one true thing that the gamer is really about tough... romance.

      Who will Han get with? Yeah, you were pretty much slapped in the face with all but a confirmation that it'll be a harem, but ignore that.

      Kwon: 

      Swole as all hell.

      Really straightforward.

      ...That's it.



      Huang:

      She's got the Protecc wibes turned up to maximum.



      Lolikiano:

      Kissed Han... twice. 

      Sexually harrased him.

      Litirally invited him to have sex with her the first time they met.



      Sun-Il:

      Actually cares about him.

      Childhood friend.

      Was ready to put on the skirt in the dating what-if

      Can get to Han whenever he needs him




      I think we all know who wins here.

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    • Lmao.

      Kwon is low key his wife right now.

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    • Yeah.

      And boy is Han's page going to look... large in Source Code. The sheer amounts of tabbers, amongst other things, is ridicolous.

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    • Also, to the non-physical interaction stuff. Demons are highly inteligent spirits, who are just humans' thoughts. (Episode 91)

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    • Guys guys

      Clearly gaming is his waifu. Gaming has done more for his life than anyone else :^ )

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    • By that logic Gaia is his waifu.

      And as we all know, earth-chan is the superior waifu, no matter how flat she is.

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    • I mean Earth-chan Gaia is not certainly flat.

      Stop me from sending anything.

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    • You guys are ridiculous, lol.

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    • Oh, hey, just found that those who hace Cheon-Bu blood cannot defy the sword of dan, no matter what. (Episode 121)

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    • Where do you guys read The Gamer? I read it on Webtoons but all the names are different.

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    • Webtoons for me too, but the names change a lot in it. I simply used what is the most popular way to write Korean names, since what we wrote are just what it is pronounced like, since they don't have our alphabet.

      Like, webtoons changed the name of endurance to strength, HP, endurance and power throughout the series.

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    • Well ok. I noticed the translations were pretty off during the beginning of the comic but they got a lot better. There’s still some issues here and there like today’s episode where they said “heavenly mirror” but they weren’t showing the mirror.

      On another note I know on the profile he has speed of light lighting for one of the keys in speed but shouldn’t he have that for the other keys?

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    • Yeah. The blog I made for the new profile corrects that.

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    • Cool

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    • I'd recommend Kissmanga too jic since their mistakes seem corrected? I haven't checked fully since I'm using a mangarock app. 

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    • Got a 7-B calc, another one, that Hwan scales to.

      So yeah.

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    • Holy shite, they already know where the world tree is. They, as in, Seeker of Truth and co.

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    • Umm...who, that literally explains what has been happening for the past few chapters.

      Also, what happened to that apocalypse dude who was in the conversation from season 1?

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    • I thought that seeker of truth and co. didn't know where it is either, but I guess I was wrong. Though, this seems to contradict them needing to find another piece of another tree, and then seeker breaking through it. Unless the countdown Seeker was doing was him trying to get in the tree or something.

      As for the guys who are part of it... I don't know the codename too well, but: The puppeteer was a member, but he died. The President was the Souless named one. The one summoning the demons in Korea was advent of chaos, I think?

      The one with the mask that gave Yoohwa the mask I don't know anything about.

      And I think the new enemy Han is fighting was a new recruit they mentioned.

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    • True. But they only said that they knew the tree was in Korea, as opposed to any other country or dimension. Knowing where it is doesn't mean they know how to actually get to the physical thing.

      Oh yeah, I forgot he was a member. It's strange how drastically different some of them are in terms of strength.

      Yeah.

      That makes the most sense.

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    • Yeah, it's lucky that it wasn't Seeker of Truth that went for Prez.

      It would have been interesting to see, but Han wouldn't have won that one.

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    • Also, I am honestly having some problems deciding speed to be honest.

      Lightning is stated to be Light Speed in-verse due to it's molecules being like light. It's dumb, but it is a thing in-verse. 

      It also means that the swordsman and those above him would be FTL. 



      The only thing I don't like it is because against Yoohwa, Han mentions how her light attacks (Which are like real light, as it was made clear with seeker of truth complimenting Han for trying to use light to hit him) are nearly impossible to dodge. The fact that he can have a monologue while light is coming at him is a thing.

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    • Also, the blog is mostly complete, tough I left out some of the stuff from the non-officially translated chapter.

      So, if there are no problems, I would edit the original page.

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    • Yeah, though Seeker doesn't seem like the type to resort to a mere kidnapping.

      I mean, thinking and talking are free actions. Characters speak and think long things in impossible scenarios all the time, so I wouldn't get too deep into it. Both light and lightning are considered light speed in verse. While lightning being light speed is wrong, it's already been acknowledged multiple times. The Church of the Masks arc really seemed to delve into speed at the beginning. First with the guild leader, then with Yoohwa's fast thinking. Then with enhanced time acceleration. Etc.

      Alright. I'm sure it looks good.

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    • Oh, the thinking part wasn't the main thing.

      The main problem is that the swordsman was nearly twice as fast as light, and yet the light here would be near impossible to dodge for Han. I suppose you could say that his speed wasn't that comparable to the swordsman at that point.... which is perfectly true now that I think about it.

      Hmmmm.

      I'll make a thread about it just to be sure. If accepted, maybe putting "Possibly FTL" would be better?

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    • Okay.

      I mean, I wouldn't say that. The main thing giving Han problem's was the swordman's sporadic movement through his teleportation. Not that he was significantly faster than Han.

      Perhaps. I'm assuming that if you used the SoL in the swordsman calc it would've been FTL?

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    • It's about twice SoL.

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    • Jeez. That's fast. And inconsistent.

      It's weird, their AP is uncomfortably consistent. And their speed...isn't.

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    • Yeah, it is pretty weird.



      If only SoL lightning wasn't mentioned... I just hope the author does decide to retcon it into saying that either only the arrows and nothing else is FTL, or some other thing.

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    • I guess we'll see. By lore, nothing in verse should surpass the speed of light, at least not physically. But by feats, there's a contradiction. And I'm not sure which one we go with in this case.

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    • Yeah, true enough.

      Though, I find it perfectly plausible that someone like Harem King can go faster than it.

      Plus, even assuming Lightning speed, we are getting to FTL regardless through stat amps.

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    • I also agree that the Harem King is likely faster.

      True.

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    • Also, did you notice how time dilatation went from X20, to X30, to now X15 being a huge improvement?

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    • Yeah, I really don't understand now. Like, from x20 to x30 I understand. But now x15 is his peak? Literally makes no sense.

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    • Yeah.

      And how should I manage with his base speed for this to begin with?

      As in, the church of masks one. He backsaled to mach 110 becae X20 speed amp. Should I make it 145 now or..? I hate plotholes.

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    • I...literally have no clue. Like, I guess it's safest to use the lowest one but...ugh. I hate plotholes too. Especially since this one is so avoidable.

      Maybe we can ask Rep.

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    • I guess we could. I'll do so in a bit.

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    • Alright, sounds good.

      Also, did you ever make a profile for the MC from solo leveling?

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    • Since translations aren't fully out, and google translate is a no, I just need to make a summary for the character.

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    • Alright.

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    • Awesome, thank you.

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    • I originally tough there couldn't be a fair fight between him and Han.

      I forgot how OP Han was at this point. Not sure who wins, but still.

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    • Oh. I mean, the guy has a lot of potent abilities.

      Yeah, lol. Depends on what they start with.

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    • Risci, the edits to Han's profile look fantastic.

      Though Han has time acceleration during the great labyrinth arc as well. Since he first used in against Sanghan.

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    • I cut the labyrint arc off at the end of the Arc Company fiasco.

      By the time he fights the necromancer, Lolikiano and Han are already talking about going to the Dragon Kings island.

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    • Ah, alright. Fair enough.

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    • Ricsi-viragosi wrote:
      Changes to Kwon's profile. Any problems?
      Kwon

      Shi-Yun Debut
      Take them down. You don't have to kill them, incapacitating them will be enough.
      ~ Kwon Shi-Yun, offering honest support to Han Jee-Han

      KwonBlue
      Well.. here I go!
      ~ Kwon before attacking priests of the church of masks

      Spiritual

      Summary

      Kwon Shi-Yun is a proud member of the Yeon Hon guild and friend of Han Jee-Han. She is currently in training to become strong enough to be of suitable assistance to her guild. After being saved by Jee-Han, she developed a small crush on him and seeks to repay her debt. Currently, her guild has been taken over by the Church of Masks and she seeks to free them from their grasp.

      Powers and Stats

      Tier: At least High 8-C, likely 8-B. At least 8-B with Forbidden Black Soul Flame | 8-A, higher with Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Low 7-C, possibly 7-C, higher with Forbidden Black Soul Flame | High 7-C, higher through Jin Taji's Yeon-Hon Mastery

      Name: Kwon Shi-Yun

      Origin: The Gamer

      Gender: Female

      Age: Likely 18 | Likely 19 | At least 19 | At least 19

      Classification: Acquired fighter, Blaze Soul Flame Fist UserPowers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Fire Manipulation, Martial Arts, Soul Manipulation (via Soul Flame Fist Style), Telepathy, Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with most types of Intangibility, from non-corporeal, to Elemental Intangibility, to even being able to interact with an imaginary being) Flight, Limited Power Nullification (via Forbidden Wave of Destruction), Statistics Amplification with Black Flames, Slight Durability Negation (Via Forbidden Black Soul Flame, was stated to bypass most defensive techniques, including forcefields and the like), Time Stop (via illusion barriers), Limited Aura Usage (via meditation, her natural fighting spirit, and blade palms), Can create ID BarriersExtrasensory Perception (Claimed to feel a powerful energy when the boss spawned outside of her view), made her classmates ignore her, Statistics Amplification via Forbidden Black Flame, Can disrupt internal organs and break bones with her attacks, typically through striking pressure points | All previous abilities on a heightened scale, Limited Reality Warping (Has Han Jee-Han's game mechanics) | All previous to a heightened extent, can feel everything in a radius of 20 kilometersPseudo-Intangibility via Black Flame Incarnation (Despite having a defined shape, she is made out of pure energy, making her immune to physical attacks), Resistance to Pain Manipulation via Black Flame Incarnation (Physically unable to feel pain, to the point that contradictory energies ripping her apart didn't affect her), Power Nullification via Black Flame Incarnation (Can burn through energy, nullifying most abilities.), Potential Statistics Amplification (The Blue accelerator flame enhances one's speed), Blood Manipulation (She can restrict movement and halt the flow of blood with her drill technique), Potential Healing (Divine Help Spirit Flame), Resistance to physical attacks and spells, possible Longevity | All previous to a heightened extent, Unknown Status Effect Inducements (Never specified), Weapon MasteryIce ManipulationElectricity Manipulation

      Attack Potency​​​​​​ At least Large Building level, likely City Block level (Superior to Han Jee-Han), at least City Block level via Forbidden Black Soul Flame (Makes her several times stronger) | Multi-City Block level (Comparable to Han Jee-Han), higher with Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Small Town Level, possibly Town level (Jee-Han said she was stronger than him after absorbing the guild leader's power, she later absorbed her mother's power, becoming more than twice as strong as Han), higher with the Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Large Town level (Comparable to Han), Large Town level+ via Jin Taji's Yeon-Hon Mastery

      Speed: At least Transonic | At least Supersonic (Comparable to Han Jee-Han) | At least Massively Hypersonic+ (Absorbed the powers of the guild leader and her mother) | Likely Sub-Relativistic

      Lifting Strength: At least Class 5, likely much higher (Should be vastly superior to Han Jee-Han) | At least Class K | At least Class K | Class G

      Striking Strength: At least Large Building class, likely City Block class, at least at least City Block level via Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Multi-City Block Class, higher with Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Small Town Level, possibly possibly Town Class (Her physical stats are superior to Jee-Han's), higher with Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Large Town class, Large Town class+ via Jin Taji's Yeon-Hon Mastery

      Durability: At least Large Building level, likely City Block level, at least City Block level via Forbidden Black Soul Flame | Multi-City Block level, likely higher | Small Town Class, possibly Town level | Large Town level, Large Town level+ via Jin Taji's Yeon-Hon Mastery​​​​​​

      Stamina: High | High (Was capable of fighting against multiple members of the Church of Masks, has placed herself through rigorous training) | Likely limitless (Likely superior to Han, who can train perpetually), high while using Black Flame Incarnation (Litirally burns through her energy) | Limitless, high with spiritualization

      Range: Standard melee range

      Standard Equipment: None notable

      Intelligence: Below average academically and socially. Her memory is also rather poor but is adept in combat. | Same as previously | Slightly better academically and socially, Genius combatant and likely above average memory (Has 100 INT). | Extremely skilled in martial arts and has had the equivalent of enlightenment.

      Weaknesses: Lack of any true ranged techniques. Repeated restraining skills. | Someone strong enough should be able to one-shot her regardless where they strike, as her HP would hit 0. Black Flame Incarnation uses a large amount of stamina, even for her | Incarnation still uses much stamina, but is more managable

      Notable Attacks/Techniques:

      • Soul Flame Fist Style: A power based upon the souls latent in an area that has not moved onto the afterlife and are instead, wandering around. Users of this ability capture these souls in order to use them as power.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style, Profound will: Soul Flame Explosion: A move where Kwon charges forward, elbow first bearing down a wrath of flame around her. She hits her target with her elbow, causing an explosion within the immediate vicinity.
        • Blade Palms: A technique where Kwon surrounds her hands with a red aura that can be used like blades.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style-Forbidden Black Soul Flame: A form where Kwon burns her own soul, generating black flames that grant him strength several times greater than what he previously had. Thanks to her game mechanics, her soul being burned likely registers as loss in MP and HP.
        • Flame Wave of Destruction: A small burst of black flames comes off of Kwon's body, destroying any magic currently placed upon him.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style- Profound Will, Soul Flame Divine Wrath: Black flames from Kwon's burning soul cover her torso like an armor, which presumably burns any who attempt to physically harm him, as well as magic that comes in contact with it.
      • White Flame Fist: An enhanced version of the soul flame fist. This version exudes a white aura around Kwon's body and grants him far more strength than that of her typical red aura. The aura also seems to allow him some slight physical enhancements.
        • White Flame Spinning Kick: Kwon spins with the power of the white flame fist, landing her heel at an enemy, damaging their internal organs and breaking their bones. This ability seems to derive from the fact that Kwon is capable of producing great power over the span of an instant, allowing for explosive potential.

      • Yeon-Hon Principle: Can heal 50 HP and 50 MP. MP for those not in her party registers as whatever enegy they might use, such as Hwan's energy from hell. Can even heal the soul, reduce negative mental effects (from simply anxiety to forcefully being put to sleep by magic. Could even heal PTSD of someone who got abducted.) and many other status effects. More effective with spirit stones.
      • Soul Flame Fist Style: A power based upon the souls latent in an area that has not moved onto the afterlife and are instead, wandering around. Users of this ability capture these souls in order to use them as power.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style, Profound will: Soul Flame Explosion: A move where Kwon charges forward, elbow first bearing down a wrath of flame around her. She hits her target with her elbow, causing an explosion within the immediate vicinity.
        • Blade Palms: A technique where Kwon surrounds her hands with a red aura that can be used like blades.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style-Forbidden Black Soul Flame: A form where Kwon burns her own soul, generating black flames that grant him strength several times greater than what he previously had. Thanks to her game mechanics, her soul being burned likely registers as loss in MP and HP.
        • Flame Wave of Destruction: A small burst of black flames comes off of Kwon's body, destroying any magic currently placed upon him.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style- Profound Will, Soul Flame Divine Wrath: Black flames from Kwon's burning soul cover her torso like an armor, which presumably burns any who attempt to physically harm him, as well as magic that comes in contact with it.
      • White Flame Fist: An enhanced version of the soul flame fist. This version exudes a white aura around Kwon's body and grants him far more strength than that of her typical red aura. The aura also seems to allow him some slight physical enhancements.
        • White Flame Spinning Kick: Kwon spins with the power of the white flame fist, landing her heel at an enemy, damaging their internal organs and breaking their bones. This ability seems to derive from the fact that Kwon is capable of producing great power over the span of an instant, allowing for explosive potential.
      • The Drill Technique: Kwon strikes multiple pressure points across the opponent's upper body using two fingers. This technique blocks the flow of blood vessels and prevents the afflicted from moving. This technique can also be used for healing.
      • Black Flame Incarnation: The ultimate power of the Yeonhon guild. It combines all types of flames available to them, it burns any type of energy, nullifying most spells and other powers. It transforms the users body into pure energy, making it immune to physical attacks as well as allowing them to be unaffected by two contradictory energies being forcefully mixed in him.

        • Cheon-Bu's Three Principles:  A skill that absorbs the energy from the world around and stores it in the user, permanently increasing their strength, as well as allowing them to overcome limits. Increases strength, speed, durability, memorization and healing by 16% at all times, and increases strength, speed and durability by 48% while actively using it. Also increases strength by +40 when used. Also allows the ability of infusing attacks with Ki, allowing to hit several types of Intangibles.
        • Cheon-Bu's Swordsmanship: Increases skill with sword. Sword strikes become 20% stronger, and swords can be imbued with Ki. 
          • Mountain Smash: Increases the range of a sword swipe with ki.
        • Cheon-Bu's Fist Control: Increase skill in martial arts, as well as increasing bare handed attack power and speed by 20%. 
        • Cheon-Bu's Feet Control: Passively increases speed by 25%, and increases it by 50% while concentrating Ki.
        • Cheon-Bu's External Energy Control: Allows to manipulate and absorb energy from the world around. Passively increases all stats but luck, stamina and it's regeneration, and HP and it's regeneration by 10%. Can also increase MP and stats permanently by meditating and taking in the energy of the world, although this takes hours.

      Yeon-Hon:

        • Yeon-Hon Principle: Can heal 50 HP and 50 MP. MP for those not in her party registers as whatever enegy they might use, such as Hwan's energy from hell. Can even heal the soul, reduce negative mental effects (from simply anxiety to forcefully being put to sleep by magic. Could even heal PTSD of someone who got abducted.) and many other status effects. More effective with spirit stones.
        • Soul Flame Fist Style: A power based upon the souls latent in an area that has not moved onto the afterlife and are instead, wandering around. Users of this ability capture these souls in order to use them as power.
          • Soul Flame Fist Style, Profound will: Soul Flame Explosion: A move where Kwon charges forward, elbow first bearing down a wrath of flame around her. She hits her target with her elbow, causing an explosion within the immediate vicinity.
          • Blade Palms: A technique where Kwon surrounds her hands with a red aura that can be used like blades.
          • Soul Flame Fist Style-Forbidden Black Soul Flame: A form where Kwon burns her own soul, generating black flames that grant him strength several times greater than what he previously had. Thanks to her game mechanics, her soul being burned likely registers as loss in MP and HP.
          • Flame Wave of Destruction: A small burst of black flames comes off of Kwon's body, destroying any magic currently placed upon him.
          • Soul Flame Fist Style- Profound Will, Soul Flame Divine Wrath: Black flames from Kwon's burning soul cover her torso like an armor, which presumably burns any who attempt to physically harm him, as well as magic that comes in contact with it.
        • White Flame Fist: An enhanced version of the soul flame fist. This version exudes a white aura around Kwon's body and grants him far more strength than that of her typical red aura. The aura also seems to allow him some slight physical enhancements.
          • White Flame Spinning Kick: Kwon spins with the power of the white flame fist, landing her heel at an enemy, damaging their internal organs and breaking their bones. This ability seems to derive from the fact that Kwon is capable of producing great power over the span of an instant, allowing for explosive potential.
        • The Drill Technique: Kwon strikes multiple pressure points across the opponent's upper body using two fingers. This technique blocks the flow of blood vessels and prevents the afflicted from moving. This technique can also be used for healing.
        • Black Flame Incarnation: The ultimate power of the Yeonhon guild. It combines all types of flames available to them, it burns any type of energy, nullifying most spells and other powers. It transforms the users body into pure energy, making it immune to physical attacks as well as allowing them to be unaffected by two contradictory energies being forcefully mixed in him.

      Jin Taji's Yeon-Hon Mastery: The fusion of several martial arts, it is immensely powerful.

        • Taji's Palm: Fires energy from Kwon's palms.
        • Taji's Blast of Five Elements: Releases energy from Kwon's hands, creating a nuke like explosion.


      Other:

      The Drill Technique: Kwon strikes multiple pressure points across her opponent's upper body using two fingers. This technique blocks the flow of blood vessels and prevents the afflicted from moving. This technique can also be used for healing.

      Illusion Barriers: Kwon has the ability to create illusion barriers, same as most others within the abyss. She can freeze time for anyone who is not an ability user, though it should be noted that the time stop doesn't last that long. It should be noted that freezing time is out-of-character for her.

      Key: Season 1-2 | Season 3 | Chruch of Masks Arc | Divine Tree Arc

      Others

      Notable Victories:

      Notable Losses:

      Priscilla (Claymore) Priscilla's Profile (Low 7-C Forms was used and speed was equalized)

      Inconclusive Matches

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    • Seems fine.

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    • Looks fairly solid, though I think she should have a key for the current arc. Since she didn't get ice manip, nor mastery over spiritual reincarnation, until after Yoohwa was defeated.

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    • There are four different tiers and abilities sections, so methinks he forgot to add a jey.

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    • Yeah.

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    • Oh, lol. Alright.

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    • Looking at the keys now, I'm pretty sure Kwon doesn't use the black flames until season 3, right before the start of season 4.

      I also don't think she makes an appearance in season 2 at all.

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    • O gee, I tought the blue flames were that. Huh.

      But she isn't in season 2, yeah.

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    • Alright, cool. So we'll have to adjust the profile to reflect that.

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    • Looking over Han's profile, I think we neglected to add spatial manip to his most recent key.

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    • I won't ask for questions on that till I see it lol.

      But uh just realized. He already read the Flight book and Lightning Arrow prior to the Company vs Overprotective Shades dad. That would mean he has those abilities right? 

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