So yesterday i was looking through the internet while looking for some calcs for the SJverse, and i found a set of interesting calcs i've found on Narutoforums that were made from this year that R 6 months old.
Thanks you two. Now if there happens to be anything wrong with the calcs in anyway(other than Xcanos comment), please state them as we do have other calcs there to use(like for example, if Jack's Sunlight feat in the off chance is iffy and not accpeted in any way, we'll have to use the Mach 84 as our second best then).
Oh by the way just to let everyone here know this: I actually did the opposite here. As in rather than see what people think of this and do the upgrades/downgrades(Aku's only Large Island level+ going by our AP chart and the calc seen above) if this is supported and legit, i did the changes first THEN post this thread here.
Hehe. Yeah, y'all should know i'd somehow this by now. Heh.
The Everlasting wrote: I still think we can use the Relativistic+ calc.
Okay, thanks Everlasting. Though i did left it as likely Relativistic+ though for Jack but it's good enough unless we fully cement that Jack's feat can scale to not only his reactions but also for his combat speed.
CrossverseCrisis wrote: Thanks. Question: What do y'all think about MFTL and Star level God Tiers for the SJVerse?
Makes sense. I mean, weren't they supposed to be all-powerul cosmic entities? Like, didn't the primordial evil represent all evil, or something?
Yup. And Aku is just only a fraction of that Evil too as well. And taht is right about Ra, Odin, and Vishnu being Gods, and it said something about the Nameless Evil being larger and longer(pause) than a star or something. Hmm....
I'm saying it's pretty unlikely we'll get a lower estimate for the Mach feat. I mean, even doing some lowball napkin math here, let's assume he moves his arm 1 meter (even though he's clearly blocking several bullets), the machine gun was firing slower than modern ones (I'll use 1500 mph) and that he was 3 meters away from it at the end of his run.
1500 mph to kmh is 2141 kmh. It'd take 1.5 milliseconds for the bullet to travel 1 meter. Multiply that by 3 and we get 4.5 milliseconds for Jack to move his arm 1 meter as a lowball.
That's... 497 mph or 0.65 Mach. Kinda disappointing honestly. Yeah maybe we do need calc group to re-check.
The Living Tribunal1 wrote: so is his speed fixed now?
More or less but Kav told me to ask the calc people to look this over to see if any of these calcs are legit or not. I did left all of the known Samurai Jack pages as they are after i did the change(bad move on my part, but.......yeah).
ABout the speed feats:
About Mach 84 calc: "On this frame 2 bullets seem to hit their targets simultaneously, so 1 pix is biggest distance bullet could travel."
On that frame his arm can be seen 3 times. That means we actually do not see his arm move in comparison to the bullet, it is just that the POV can neither see the bullets fly, nor can it follow the movement of Jacks arm. So the idea that he blocks two bullets simultaneously doesn´t work here.
In the first place a Gatling gun fires "only" 350 rounds per minute. So reasonably the timeframe would be 0.1714 seconds between the bullets that reach him. So he moved
0.280850999025339044 m / 0.1714 seconds = 1.639 m/s
Not really fast.
About 0.8c : Not much to say there. Calc wise the feat is ok. Even through as someone mentions the fire would be moving at relativistic speeds as well. So no idea if you want to take it seriously or not.
About Mach 7: Seems ok, I guess. Even through I did not find a version of the episode that I could download to look at the frames.
4.8 Kilotons: Not legit per OBD comments alone. Seemingly we don´t know that the spaceship or whatever was freefalling without deceleration and the mass is to high, since 50% hollowness was assumed, while at least 80% is standard.
394 tons: Speed assumption is wrong. More mass = less speed, like stated in the comments, so assuming muzzle velocity of that canon doesn´t work.
654-770 Gigatons/538 Gigatons: Hmm... wonky scaling? maybe but not all that much of a problem in my opinion. Then again if it was supposed to be that event, than it might as well scale like that. So do with that one what you like...
1.32 Tons: Violent fragmentation of wood at 8j/cc... to be honest I never heard that value. It doesn´t seem unrealistic for the feat, I guess. But I really do not know about that value.
DontTalk wrote: the 1.32 tons calc might be legit as well (it doesn´t seem unrealistic), it just is that I can not judge it, since I can not confirm that the 8 j/cc value is right.
Oh okay. Well i have adjusted the charactersof the series based on yours and CGG's comments(even going so far as to put Aku's AP and Dura to that of the event that killed the dinosaurs).
I did leave those like Jack and the Scotsman(not really that many SJverse chars) at Large Building due to them having fought skyscraper sized beings and/or very durable robots. The 1.32 tons calc could be in there somewhat though, who knows.