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All things stand as I determined the morning of the worlds. For you are the king of contrivance and manipulation Samael. But in that. As in all things----you learned from your father.
~ The Presence to Michael and Lucifer


The Presence is the representation of the Judeo-Christian God in the DC Multiverse and the father of both Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos. Although his power is virtually unparalleled, he rarely interferes in the affairs of mortals directly, instead acting through agents and aspects of himself, such as The Spectre.

I've been so many different beings down through history. Lived so many millions of lifetimes. With so many more yet to come. But beyond all that...I'm spirit. And beyond that. I'm connected to the Logoz that God merged me with. To the Oversoul itself. To the Divine Presence that contains and surpasses everyone and everything in Creation.
~ The Spectre talks about the Presence's true form, one of the manifestations of the collective God.


The Presence is one of the supreme and essential creative forces of the DC Multiverse. While the Source and the Overvoid represent the blank canvas from which creation is modelled, the Presence can be described as the one responsible for fashioning said canvas to its will, and is thus the abstract embodiment of every Creator God dreamed and worshipped by mankind over the ages, that which is known by millions of names but in the end represents the same concept. Together with the two aforementioned entities, The Presence can be said to represent God.

Powers and Stats

Tier: 1-A | High 1-A

Name: Yahweh, Jehovah, The Presence, God of the Covenant

Origin: DC Comics/Vertigo

Gender: Inapplicable. Portrayed as Male

Age: Inapplicable. Older than Creation

Classification: Deity, Supreme God

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Types 1, 3 and 10), Beyond-Dimensional Existence (Type 2), Large Size (Type 11), Abstract Existence (type 1), Transduality (Transcends The Endless and creation), Non-Corporeal, Shapeshifting, Regeneration (High-Godly), Reality Warping, Spatial Manipulation, Time Manipulation, Energy Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Law Manipulation (Shaped existence and its laws into effect), Fate Manipulation (Set the fate for the DCU), Probability Manipulation (All things happen due to his will, as he decides every variable and law), Void Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Life and Death Manipulation, Acausality (Type 5), Causality Manipulation, Telekinesis, Telepathy, Teleportation, Flight, Omnipresence, Nigh-Omniscience, Resistance to Death Manipulation, Madness Manipulation, Willpower Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Dream Manipulation, and Destruction (Transcends the Endless, who embody those concepts)

Attack Potency: Outerverse level (The Presence is the creator god of the DC-Vertigo continuity, immensely above both Michael Demiurgos and Lucifer Morningstar, and superior to the boundless and beyond-dimensional Mother Night. Limited only by The Overvoid.) | High Outerverse level (Equal in importance and complexity to The Source and Monitor-Mind The Overvoid, being the supreme creative force from which absolutely everything, existent or nonexistent, sprung from, and that which is known by millions of names and aspects but ultimately translates to one singular entity, The Creator)

Speed: Omnipresent | Omnipresent

Lifting Strength: Irrelevant

Striking Strength: Outerversal | High Outerversal

Durability: Outerverse level | High Outerverse level

Stamina: Infinite

Range: Outerversal | High Outerversal

Standard Equipment: None Notable

Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscient | Omniscient

Weaknesses: None notable

Keys: Yahweh | The Divine Presence

Note 1: The Presence is considered one of the three major manifestations of God. Its "Divine Presence" key refers to its true and purely abstract form, which is mostly unrelated to its avatar of Yahweh as the Judaico-Christian God. Please do not confuse the two.

The Presence's avatar has stated that he was shaped by external forces, apparently intended to be the beliefs and imaginations of humanity, rather than a 4th Wall reference to the writers or real-world humans. This concept was introduced in The Sandman: A Dream of a Thousand Cats, which depicts that originally cats were the dominant species on Earth, being giant beasts which hunted humans. However, the collected dream of a world where humans ruled over cats altered reality from its very beginning, making it so that humans were always larger than cats.

The avatar form of The Presence is incapable of killing The Great Evil Beast, with both being equal halves of the same whole. The Presence is also not fully Omniscient. There are certain things he doesn't know, and which occur outside of his plan, and he cannot know the thoughts of comparable beings.

Finally, multiple comics have either suggested or outright stated that the avatar of the Presence was born out of the primordial Void from which all things originate, thus making him just another character is drawn from the canvas that is The Overmonitor. However, the true form of the Presence, that being The Creator/The Divine Presence, exists on a similar level and is strongly related to the Overvoid itself. For more information on the matter, see God.

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    • You're kind of taking that statement out of context. Madame Xanadu is referring to how Jim's not willing to use the spectre...
    • oh wey thought this was good to mention. well just ignore this then.
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