Helllo, Xulrev, since you are familiar with The Dark Tower, can you give your inputs on which Regeneration (True-Goldy) should be changed to for characters that have it in the verse here? Thanks in advance, man👍
Oh, I have been busy; no worry, the reply is more verse specific here.
Basically, the run down is that True-Godly regeneration is removed. High-Godly Regeneration was redefined. Since True-Godly regeneration was removed, supporters/knowledgeable are ask to give their inputs what their regeneration regarding characters they are familiar with should be.
Alright so both should realistically have High-Godly assigned to their regeneration.
By the very fact of their existing in the void beyond the world the Dark Tower resides within, they are beyond the concept of plot/narrative, something that is supported with Pennywise specifically due to the fact that he keeps coming back even when a (currently) 1-A entity helps obliterate his form with the full force of The White (the will of the plot given shape, essentially).
For Gan, I believe it should be the same since he exists as the progenitor of all beings in the Dark Tower universe and is innately above them all
The conclusion makes sense. I messaged Zensum who came up with the same conclusion on the regeneration. Aeyu, a former staff who familiar with the verse, also told me the regeneration would be High-Godly from plot/narrative on Discord.
I will mention your points on the regeneration thread.
I would like to ask you a question: In this matches, we are arguing about Nemesis ability to infect people on contact. So, does he need to do infecting them via tentacles or just touching him that caused infection?
Nemesis canonically only ever infects Jill with his tentacle, his touch alone in insufficient to infect. He absolutely needs to penetrate with his tentacle for the T virus to spread, as does....really anything in Resident Evil. Theres no touch based viral transmission I'm aware of.
Hello. Yes, it's me again, the person from a few messages below. I do have a few questions again about the Cthulhu Mythos, as I had been privately messaging/talking with several users who are knowledgable on this verse, and what they said did leave me with more questions than answers. I was wondering if you could answer them:
1) From the chatting I had with the Cthulhu Mythos's knowlegable members, is it actually true that the Outer Gods are beyond the definitions of "reality" and "fiction" as we understand it? I do feel hilarioulsy stupid for asking this question, but I was curious to know whether this was true or not.
2) If a cult were to summon Azathoth, would it only be an avatar of the real thing?
Hello again!! I welcome the questions, so absolutely:
1) In a strict sense, yes. Azathoth, for instance, is quite commonly referred to as a being beyond reality itself due to him having been referenced, briefly, as literally dreaming all of reality into existence, as upon his waking everything will cease to be. For a blurb:
> outside the ordered universe that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes
Those flutes keep it asleep, for when it awakes all is simply Azathoth once more
2) If a cult woke Azathoth, it has no avatars. To summon it would be to wake it, since it is asleep and doesn't actively have any avatars (that I'm aware of, at least, and I've read a good deal of the Mythos). So, they would successfully destroy every reality if they summoned him. Whether or not that's a good thing depends on your perspective I suppose.
Heh, I did actually ask the first question because I was so confused by what some of the knowledgeable members said. When they said that the Outer Gods exist beyond the definitions of “reality” and “fiction,” I had the interpretation that they meant our world...but that isn’t possible as their still fictional characters.
I don’t really have too many other questions, except:
3) This does build upon your second response. If a cult successfully summoned Azathoth, would the entity actually do a favor for the cult (if the cult wanted it to)? This is also assuming the entity doesn’t destroy all of existence.
4) Is is true that no matter how powerful our race or any species becomes, we/they will always have an infinitely limited perspective of the Outer Gods?
3) No, because his awakening, in of itself, has destroyed reality. Azathoth would do no favors, because we are to Azathoth as a microbial bacterium is to us. You would think nothing of a singular bacteria because from your perception, it just doesn't exist.
4) Yes this is, generally, correct. It would not be possible short of forcibly generating a perspective beyond the scope of what we can even imagine.....which would, y'know, be slightly flawed and difficult.
But yeah I totally understand how some of this is absurdly confusing, the idea of reality beyond reality is...difficult, at best, and near-insanity at worst haha.
Heh, sounds pretty depressing. However, I do want to point out something you said earlier. When you said that Azathoth would destroy every reality if successfully summoned, isn't that just our infinitesimally small perspective? From what I've heard, Azathoth "waking up" is just simply how we humans comprehend it.
Hello there, I’m a new user to this site. I was wondering if you could answer a question I have about the Cthulhu Mythos: No matter how powerful you become, or how many levels you transducers the concept of dimensions, you will always only comprehend a fraction of what the Outer Gods really are?
The basic answer to your question is: yes, you're correct. The Outer Gods, persons like Nyarlathotep and Yog-Sothoth, you can't simply reach their level of power. They transcend the very idea of an inifinite number of dimensions
Heh, thanks for answering my question, although I do want to ask something about Azathoth: Is the difference between Azathoth and Yog-Sothoth greater than the difference between Yog-Sothoth and a 0-dimensional being?
Azathoth encompasses and transcends the idea of dimnensionality itself by an infinite/unknowable amount, since all of reality, all of it, is a product of his dreams. Whereas someone like Yog-Sothoth merely transcends infinite dimensions, Azathoth takes that next step and transcends the idea of infinite dimensions, essentially.
It's a bit convoluted, but the idea is the same at base: Yog-Sothoth is as powerful as a player can be in a video game by using all cheats and glitches or exploits, Azathoth is the power to the game and can turn it off on a whim.