I highly doubt it's single use considering ainz was rather casually considering using it if the frost dragon lord turned out to be more powerful then he thought. Plus what good would an item with multiple abilities be if it could only be used once.
Fair, I see why we would do that as what it does is in a way just very potent resistance negation. Its just a bit strange that it can apply the concept of death to things that have never fundamentally been alive.
Then, Ainz’s trump card took effect. In that moment — the world died. This was not metaphorical. Everything died. The Einherjar evaporated into white mist as it couched its lance, and dispersed before Ainz’s eyes. Even a homunculus with no concept of life died instantly. Shalltear’s familiars shared the same fate, unable to resist the destruction which overtook them. That was not all.
Even the air — which was not even alive to begin with — fell into death. For over 100 meters in all directions, the air was no longer breathable. If any living creature tried to respire within that area, their lungs would be corrupted by the deadly air, and they would die. Neither did the land escape the embrace of death. The terrain in a 100 meter radius was instantly transmuted into sand. Only Shalltear and Ainz could move in this world, where only death remained.
Clementine (Black Scripture Equipment) > Gazef (All 5 Kingdom Treasure Equipment) > Clementine (Equipment used during the fight against Momon) > Hamsuke > Gazef > Brain > Gagaran > Zero > Wall > Zaryusu > Climb > a tiger > average human Strength Permutations: The [above] are the relative strength of warriors that have appeared so far. Note: The [Wild Magic] Ring was not used. Note: Fully equipped Gazef and Clementine are reinforced by various items, so there is a question if this ranking is correct. Note: Maruyama merely judged wining and losing at a basic level. (Because there are various things one cannot win against, such as Clementine vs the Skeletal Dragon) [ZN: Hard Counters Negate Strength Difference] Note: Zero is high in terms of level, but monks are weaker than warriors, thus the evaluation. Note: Although some may want to rank Death Knight, since it is a wall Mob with high defense and low attack, there are too many unclear points. Even in battle where it does not receive damage from an opponent,nor does it deal damage, the Death Knight will win as undead feel no fatigue, so it would be advisable to ’Start attacking from long-range. Run away if it gets close ’trivializes the matter. Basically, I considered it to be a straight fight where fatigue did not factor in. Conclusion: Clementine who has reached the Realm of Heroes for humans is the strongest. Hooray!
the biggest gap is probably between Zaryusu and Climb, and Zaryusu and Zero, but other then that, i don't think there's massive gaps between each person
Fair Im only wondering cause we currently give hamsuke a possibly high eight c rating... While I suspect that's due to his training gazef is wielding the treasures and had climbs ring at one point.
With some information I learned about the latest volume it seems the kingdoms treasures may also come from a source far more powerful then normal. Razors edge is likely a product of wild magic and the final treasure is supposedly very impressive in of itself...
I agree though it is a bit dubious I just thought a possibly rating could be warranted, with gazef scaling below the value...Also I learned some information about braine that has me a bit interested lol.
Hamsuke has it due to continuously training and grappling with a Death Knight, though due to vagueness of "grappling" not necessarily meaning fighting and properly sparring, let alone dealing damage even if they did fight in training matches, we can't give her solid High 8-C, and instead just have her as we do now
I know It shouldn't bother me that much but its just so fricken random and...Like what? Why! I mean on one hand if we ever need to do a free fall calc on anything we don't need to account for air resistance and thus terminal velocity isn't a thing but...Its so weird....
Shalltear (Could move almost too fast for Ainz to properly track) > More combat oriented Guardians > Ainz (Also was moving too fast for Evileye to track) >= Yuri (Stated to be several times faster than Evileye. Could move too fast for Evileye to see) >> Evileye >>> Clementine >= Hamsuke (After training) > Hamsuke (Before training) > Gazef (Can dodge God Flash, though could have been using Possibility Sense) >= Brain (God Flash is capable of moving fast enough that even Brain couldn't react to it) > Adamantite adventurers >> Zaryusu > Zenburu (Makes a sonic boom from swinging his weapon)
am probably missing some people, but i will add them if i think of them lol
Seems pretty solid overall, can't think of any other notable characters that could be noted...Possibly zaryusu? He dodged that sonic boom swing and reacted to it with relative ease? Maybe also have climb with amps below zenburu, with normal climb below that? Climb is sorta our baseline superhuman/low character.
While fun to imagine it would never be relevant, even if ainz could cast the spell with a thought he almost never would because it's to valuable to waste. He's always gonna use other spells/abilities/resources first rather then waste one of the charges of wish upon a star....
Yeah when I first read that....its always been a fan theory I saw tossed around but having it basically confirmed is a shock...Although tbf to the devs it wouldn't have come up in pvp at the very least.
Hmmm...I really don't know, it seems like you can set spells to go off after a timer in timestop and ainz moving around a three hundred meter tree and making it a christmas tree didn't cause any of the spells to fade/not work so, therotically atleast spells don't seem to be effected by the casters position post casting...
True but its tempered by the fact tgoalid is a trump card he's not liable to use early on, saying that it is very useful information to have for vs debating. TFW being a coward makes you better in vs debates
Hlonestly thinking about it logically we probably should have known timestop would work with tgoalid, ainz sets his spells to go off on a timer during timestop, these timers count down during the timestop. For everything tgolid does its also quite blatantly a massive timer...
looking back, it seems like Mana Essence and Life Essence overcome resistance to info analysis
Shalltear is able to see Ainz's mana using Mana Essence, yet Fluder is unable to with his Talent without Ainz taking off his ring, and we know the only ring Ainz took off in his Shalltear fight is his resurrection ring
Wow thats...Excellent...I love when ikki's bullshit skill gets called out... My favorite thread still has to be that time someone put ainz against ikki and earl just couldn't conceive of a way for ikki to pull out a win...
dude literally had holes blown in him in like, every part of his body, and then he just stands up like nothing happened and proceeds to win after using "skill" to know everything there is to know how the guys fighting style, essentially activating precog, but no, it's just skill
plenty of shonen stories have the protag be an underdog who overcomes people
but usually with that, it's some sort of last minute will power induced magic powerup, or just supernatural in general, which even if it's out of almost nowhere, at least has an explanation, it's magic, it can do crazy shit
Rakudai literally looks at supernatural stuff and says "nope, not supernatural in any way"
Well most shounen have the underdog power up to match/close the gap raduki is insistent that ikki doesn't get physically tougher/more powerful, he simply pulls out the win via being more skilled and using abilities that are blatantly supernatral, and claims they arent. It also suffers from very very very flowery language that makes deciphering the text a pain in the backside.
Agreed, you know I just learned of something from the web novel, if you remember tia calls climb to big, while this was a bit bizzare in the ln. Its actually a refrence to the web novel where it was revealed tia was a person who liked very young boys.... While her sister was a lesbian...
besides storm creation feats, are there any other kinds of feats you feel iffy on?
one i've been iffy on is giving a character a tier based on a structure being destroyed if they die, like tied to their existence. If it doesn't have explicit context to say that scructure is representative of their power, for lack of better words, i've always been eh on those kinds of feats
Yeah that seems...Off to say the least if your existence/power is tied to something and your death causes that thing to collapse there really shouldn't be scalable ap wise...I mean destroying the staff of ainz ooal gown would destroy the guild base but if someone used break greater magic item to destroy it I wouldn't be comfortable giving any teiring for it's destruction.
i've always thought of someone's death causing something to collapse and be destroyed as kind of like them being the main support, like taking out the bottom object that has several other objects balanced on it
never have i thought of it as "the size of this structure = how much power they have"
Yeah I think it was a mistake from an early translation where he was called silver...Or possibly something from the web novel, considering the mention of magic/martial arts I think it was likely reffering to tenmue as hamsuke matched her claws to his blade....
Regardless of whether they were an adventurer or a worker, to be able to fearlessly dish out these words, the speaker must at least be at a powerful enough position which allows them to get away with it. As such, Eruya did not seem to mind the current atmosphere at all, and continued on. "Well, I have to admit they’re at least good enough to qualify as luggage lackeys, but when it comes to keeping everything safe, I’m not so sure." Give me a break, please. It wouldn’t be good at all if things turn ugly. Those guys are also restraining themselves due to already being hired… The workers currently present were all as strong as mithril ranked adventurers. In other words, stronger than those adventurers. However, there were still certain things that one should definitely not say, based on the given circumstances.
“Eh, it is impossible for skeletons. Or maybe all the treasures in this ruin are placed in the crypt on the surface?” “That would be terrible.”
For workers who were on par with mithril adventurers, skeletons were too weak. And the workers even outnumbered them. In front of the six skeletons, they looked at each other thinking about who should go.
“I don’t want to.”
Eruya declared. It was easy to understand how he felt.
“Then I shall go.”
Greenham said and walked to the front.
so yeah, Hamsuke can easily block attacks from an amped Mithril adventurer, and Mithril is the rank where victory against an Elder Lich is possible
Yeah we should change that note around, its good to also note how casually hamsuke dealt with him overall. He couldn't really harm her and the moment she stopped holding back he was rather easily demolished...
dude was heavily injured just from a single hit from her tail
As Eruya smiled cruelly, sure of his victory, Hamsuke’s tail moved and—
The tail struck Eruya’s shoulder like a whip at unbelievable speed.
The shoulder armour buckled and the flesh became pulp. At the same time, the sound of bones cracking could be heard and pain coursed through his body at the speed of lightning. It was so painful, Eruya staggered back while drooling.
Behind Hamsuke, the snake-like tail squirmed. It was stretched out to an abnormal length.
“My tail was too strong as expected. This was why I tried to finish with just close quarter combat.”
Eruya barely kept himself from screaming.
If he kept getting charged like this, he would lose.
I think we might get some soon for ainz and cocytus (Well technically it will be pandoras actor but as he's wearing ainz form he's basically diet ainz...technically a spoiler their I suppose but without context pretty meaningless lol)
Yeah we would, we'd also need to note pandoras actors lack of specialized equipment, unlike ainz he doesn't have a full set of equipment specifically made to compliment his build and as we know equipment makes massive differences in combat for overlord.
Looks good to me, I might have added climb to the bottom like this Climb without equipment/boost, climb with ring/boost then zaryusu. Outside that I think we're pretty golden...We might be able to add go gin above clem as well but Im not sure about it, go gins regen make's me feel confident he'd beat clementime in a fight but I don't know enough about her black scripture equipment to say how that would go.
also i still feel Climb's armor should at least be somewhere in 9-A, and i may have found better reasoning as for why
The girl released her stilettos, which were pulled down by gravity and sank into the ground. Judging by their abnormal sharpness, they must have been made of something other than simple steel.
“This is orichalcum~ More precisely, its orichalcum alloyed over mithril. Pretty good stuff.”
His full plate armor did not make any noises, the reason being that it was tempered with mithril and orichalcum and enchanted with magic.
Clementine is able to dent Ainz's created armor with her Stilettos, which he says while the armor has no magical properties, its quality scales to the caster's level, so he is impressed by her power. The fact her stilettos didn't break would also speak of their durability
Meanwhile, Climb's armor is made using the same materials, as well as being enchanted by magic
i wasn't expecting the last thread to be contested because i thought the reasoning was solid enough there, but we know how that went. So in anticipation of this being contested again and turning into something more, i'd rather wait
at least Cocytus had some stuff in the Drama CD, that's where his best moves come from, like Smite Frost Burn and Immovable Wisdom King Strike
it especially helps Smite Frost Burn worked on something at least somewhat comparable to him
Well we learned a bit about speed for the lower tiers in overlord its a bit of a spolier though (About on the level of the one I gave you about the world not having air resistance) let me know if you wanna hear about it.
To be clear its not really a speed so much as information about speed scaling.
Ok so we get further information about speed scaling, death knights can outpace mithril ranked adventurers to the point even with buffs its incredibly difficult for them to keep pace/keep eyes on them without buffs...Now this isn't a massive deal but we learn some information about how fast a mithril rank adventurers motion tracking is which makes it slightly more impressive.
even with flight and buff magic it would be impossible for a mithril rank to keep up with a death knights full sprint. (This isn't even accounting for limitless stamina just in pure speed they wouldn't be able to keep up)
Further death knights seem to deal more damage with their sheilds then their swords, and even seem to have some prefrence to bashing/crushing with their sheilds rather then using their blade.
I hope this doesn't come across as spoiler heavy, without context you really can't pull much of anything from the above, still if Ive revealed to much my apologies.
The pen or the sword wrote: Ok so we get further information about speed scaling, death knights can outpace mithril ranked adventurers to the point even with buffs its incredibly difficult for them to keep pace/keep eyes on them without buffs...Now this isn't a massive deal but we learn some information about how fast a mithril rank adventurers motion tracking is which makes it slightly more impressive.
is it actually impressive?
cause right now, Mithril adventurers would be Supersonic with our scaling, so if it's not at least that, it won't really matter
I get that its just really weird, hes only high eight c when he wants to hit something, his dura is always 7b, his magic is always avaliable to him ect. Not really opposed to it just think it's really weird to allow a 7b mage to take a spot in 8c since he can't physically hit that hard...
The pen or the sword wrote: I get that its just really weird, hes only high eight c when he wants to hit something, his dura is always 7b, his magic is always avaliable to him ect. Not really opposed to it just think it's really weird to allow a 7b mage to take a spot in 8c since he can't physically hit that hard...
I mean, at least he gets the 2nd spot 8-C (maybe 1st), so yaay
Looking at the others profiles they do seem to have the hax to take down ainz, problem is ainz seems to out range, out ap, and none of them resist death hax outside the bone dragon and while they have the hax most of them also have a bunch of hax that won't work in the first place.
Yeah it's a bit weird but whatever I suppose, so does someone wanna do the match for ainz vs 8c runner up/head honcho? Id do it but I got a few threads running already. That nobody will look at cause they involve the low teirs of overlord...
looking at you lurker! :P
Im not sure it really matters if ainz can use his 7b magic, his dura and hax pretty much make it a bit of a moot point...
The pen or the sword wrote: Yeah it's a bit weird but whatever I suppose, so does someone wanna do the match for ainz vs 8c runner up/head honcho? Id do it but I got a few threads running already. That nobody will look at cause they involve the low teirs of overlord...
So bad news heating feats are now treated seperatly from ap, good news the exception is when those feats share a power source...Power sources such as magic...Seeing as overlord uses magic we're one of the verses unaffected by this change.
>Puts Ainz, a pure magic caster, against someone with a passive anti-magic powernull field who also outranges and deconstructs, something which Ainz doesn't resist, on sight the instant the match begins
man, i'm just irrationally frustrated at that match
so, at some point after the move, i think imma make a smol CRT for Resistance to Physical Impediment, since it is not just limited intangibility
will prob need some ironing out, but i have a rough draft of how it might be worded:
Resistance to Physical Impediment (Gives the user the ability to be unaffected by things that impede their ability to exercise their full mobility, such as allowing one to immediately pop up out of snow if buried in it, not trip on ice, easily shrug free when restrained, and resist paralysis)
obviously it would also give limited intangibility, but what do ya think?
When he opened his eyes, the Eight Edge Assassins came into view. Ainz understood that he was somehow lying on the floor and tried to get up, but he could barely move due to something soft and mysterious holding him down.
How is this possible? I have restrain resistance and other movement hindrance resistance items. The moment I was completely immobilized, I should have been freed... This means the opponent has a high level restrain skill!
while i'm iffy on scaling anyone but the Pleiades physically to High 8-C without further proof, would Evileye being completely blown away by Momon's strength be a valid reason to scale completely?
"Then— here I come." He stepped— no, that wasn't right. The Momon standing in front of her had vanished. He was engaged in an intense melee with Jaldabaoth. It had developed into a struggle that Evileye could not describe with words. The after-images of countless swords, parried and countered by the extended claws of Jaldabaoth. "Incredible..." There were many ways to render praise, but at this moment, Evileye, who was entranced by the dazzling swordplay before her, could only offer up that single word. It exceeded the blows of all the swordsmen in her memory. It seemed as though he would slice through the night and evil in one blow.
"Truly spectacular. Crossing blows with a genius warrior like yourself might have been a mistake on my part." With a great wham, Momon stabbed his sword deep into the stone beneath him, and used his free hand to pluck a chunk of stone from his head, before answering plainly. "Enough with the pleasantries. You're hiding your power too, aren't you?" It seemed almost unbelievable that neither party was going all-out despite the scope of this battle. “Could he be a God-kin?” The offspring of the beings known as "Players" were people who might awaken incredible power from within themselves. The Slaine Theocracy called these people demigods. Or, more precisely, they were the ones who carried the bloodline of the Six Gods within their veins. If they had the blood of others, they would be termed differently. It seemed very likely that this Momon was of the bloodline of a “Player”. Or rather, it would be better to say that no human could have possessed such power.
[Ultimate Disturb] was a spell which greatly increases an ally’s magic resistance, at the price of wrecking their ability to cast spells. It was plainly obvious that one could neuter an enemy mage if the spell could be cast on them. “Well, I doubt you could ever pull that trick off,” Yamaiko replied as she cast a healing spell from her wand. In contrast, Bukubukuchagama chimed in with approval. “You shouldn’t say that, Yama-chan~ people discover new things because of folks like Ulbert-san who want to find them. Sometimes they might even find a loophole, but that’s expected of those shitty devs.”
Seems like it's implied it would actually be viable if it could be used on enemies
honestly Ainz should just get a resistance to every power in the wiki, would make this way easier lol
Well we know you can ress players as one of the adventurers who came to new world (The two thirteen heros I beleive) tried to revive his freind but his freind refused the ressurection, so I assume its somewhat similar to yggdrasil and demiurge mentioned already having prepared a ritual for ainz ressurection in volume twelve if ainz ever died.
if only his description of his strengthening of his death spells was enough to justify it bypassed regular resistances
Momonga’s opening spell was one that he particularly favored, [Grasp Heart]. This sort of magic was Momonga’s specialty. Momonga had used his innate skills to increase the chances of instant death, and his necromancy-enhancing abilities improved the effectiveness of [Grasp Heart] even further. However, it meant that he could not gauge the strength of that knight.
I think it's from his world class item? Like shalltear was immune/resistant to mind control and yet the world class item overcame it. Holdign the world class item allows her to resist having her resistance negated...At least I think thats the logic?
Possibly but we also have evidence incredibly powerful abilities like tgoalid simply bypass immunity rather then overpowering it. While it is conceivable it is a potency thing its just as likely to be a resistance negation thing (Which seems a bit more likely to me due to shalltears supposed immunity)
Still havent reached the pdl fight in the main translation (Apparantly there's a translation on discord but Im holding out so I can read it with full context)
Well a minor thing is we see a new type of undead about the level of a death knight and it does something decently impressive. Beyond that though not much yet beyond some very memeable joke scenes lol.
That is how fresh water works though as with any water you'd want to clean/decontaminate it before drinking, in ancient times we built our villages/homes around fresh water sources for a reason. Saying that new world is pretty different from our world.
odds are alot of the ocean side real estate is to dangerous to live near due to monsters in the ocean/monster living by the oceans. Them being fresh water may not be enough reason to build near them especially as mages can create infinite water sources with the proper materials, some cities even use such devices to hydrate their entire city.
I mean a big aspect of early human civilization had to be trying to find a good spot to settle where you didn't have to worry about ogres coming by and using your houses as snack boxes... Its why humans didn't have kingdoms until the six great gods and the slaine thecoracy went on their war to establish humans as a viable kingdom.
The pen or the sword wrote: That is how fresh water works though as with any water you'd want to clean/decontaminate it before drinking, in ancient times we built our villages/homes around fresh water sources for a reason. Saying that new world is pretty different from our world.
ye of course, but at the very least you could drink it in an emergency if you're stranded or something just to last a little longer until help comes or something, while with saltwater you'd just be making things way worse
odds are alot of the ocean side real estate is to dangerous to live near due to monsters in the ocean/monster living by the oceans. Them being fresh water may not be enough reason to build near them especially as mages can create infinite water sources with the proper materials, some cities even use such devices to hydrate their entire city.
Im actually not so sure about how much harder food is, it definitly can't be produced as easily via magic but the problem with the kingdoms food supply wasn't getting it. it was the fact every year when they were meant to harvest the empire rattled their swords at them. Leaving them with a poor harvest, further the kigdom has far fewer mages then the empire, and far less well trained mages.
The pen or the sword wrote: Im actually not so sure about how much harder food is, it definitly can't be produced as easily via magic but the problem with the kingdoms food supply wasn't getting it. it was the fact every year when they were meant to harvest the empire rattled their swords at them. Leaving them with a poor harvest, further the kigdom has far fewer mages then the empire, and far less well trained mages.
but bad harvest wouldn't matter nearly as much if they had an item that generated infinite food supply
Honestly Id like ainz to introduce the buffing food to the dwarves, seeing as one of the members of ainz ooal gown was the gourmet smith. It seems you could get a bit of a skyrim thing going buffing your stats to make higher grade equipment.
NGL was to focused on a narritive prespective to think of the idea of sebas eating in a vs thread...Amazing lol, Im hoping we get to see aura's pets and her working together in a fight as some point so we can put her animals in her optional equipment (As a beast tamer we can probably get away with it)
I can only assume it's either some bizzare resistance I don't remeber (More possible then youd think) Or more likely at some point during the profiles creation/editing someone added weapon mastery after the resistance listing. This probably became far more noticeable when we seperated out his resistances and abilities.
yes, and the text appearance is edited as to be Slashing and Piercing weapons, not Weapon Mastery, so no, Ainz doesn't have resistance to weapon mastery, there was prob just no other thing they thought they could link
since for some reason, leaving things in profiles not linked to at least something is looked down upon
His profile doesn't note him as being immune to magic only resistant to death/memory/pain magic, ainz is 7b with some very potent abilities, even if he did resist all magic wouldn't ainz potency be way above what he can handle? Like that diablo thread where it was concluded the ring didn't have the feats to reflect ainz attacks
The pen or the sword wrote: His profile doesn't note him as being immune to magic only resistant to death/memory/pain hax, ainz is 7b with some very potent abilities, even if he did resist all magic wouldn't ainz potency be way above what he can handle? Like that diablo thread where it was concluded the ring didn't have the feats to reflect ainz attacks
You can resist death/memory/pain even if its several tiers above you, as long as its not higher-d or some nonsensical stuff, since its just hax
Yeah but ainz would likely use reality slash/other high damage spells in this sitation (I wasn't reffering to the resistance to those hax but resistance to magic in general appologies for the confusion.)
How does precog deal with...time stop triplicated maxmize widen magic reality slash? does he have some skill that lets him evade massive attacks in a very close range? Or how does he deal with ainz turning him into a christmas tree with seven b magic?
i think DontTalk said before that Supernatural Luck would cause Ainz to not Time Stop or use any spells that would give him the win, instead "by chance" using only the spells that wouldn't win him the fight before Toujou does or something
he better have some amazing feats to back up that claim then, looking at his profile it just mentions always winning at a casino which while impressive doesn't really convince me... I bet ainz could do that by accident
Look at every starting move Ainz ever did against an unknown opponent. If there is one in there that doesn't finish off Karuna, Karuna will luck himself into Ainz using that one. Ainz would have to use something that instantly wins this battle next to 100% of the time to actually stand a chance.
As people here said, things like instant death spells and reality slash are techniques he could use against an unknown opponent. Those wouldn't work. So Karuna lucks himself into Ainz using exactly those.
here was the claim that Supernatural Luck would make Ainz not use any spells that would win him the fight btw
...So the total of...zero times he fought a total unkown? K then, ainz opening moves are reality slash and death, death resisted but he doesn't seem to have any way to deal with reality slash/7b magic...Further he better have some fricken amazing luck feats if he wants us to buy this line of reasoning...
Karuna has won every gambling game making a casino go bankrupt in a day. He also conveniently runs into whatever he is searching for due to this, like for example randomly running into the rarest possible species of dragon which was thought to be just a legend. If we were talking about some extremely small probability of Ainz doing something else one could consider things, but people have argued for more than enough starting moves here to make clear that Ainz isn’t going for the correct starting move 99% of the time or anything on that scale. What Karuna has is more than sufficient
How does any of this translate in any conceivable way to saying Ainz uses the exact spells that won't give him the win out of his 700+ he knows
Yeah he's...definitly pushing the edges of my disbelief...He's also acting like ainz has to use a specific spell to beat him when his ap is so much higher literally any spell he uses that isn't death or mind hax will completly obliterate him...
also if it was because of WCIs protection then this would imply they even protect against Super Tier spell hax effects, which would actually further support giving them resistances. It would also show just how broken WCIs were
Im not to worried about that (The main cast resist a bunch of that stuff innantly anyway) Plus the authors kinda hyped up the protection of the world bit, further he doesn't like explaining literally anything so. I think we're good.
Im more hopeing he gets resistance to yogiri level death hax nonsense, he could physically pulp yogiri if he could survive his hax. But it's not really feasible unfortunantly... Yogiri has the power of bad writing on his side
The pen or the sword wrote: Im more hopeing he gets resistance to yogiri level death hax nonsense, he could physically pulp yogiri if he could survive his hax. But it's not really feasible unfortunantly... Yogiri has the power of bad writing on his side </div>
I mean if his death hax wouldn't work what could yogiri actually do with his fate hax? He's physically athlete level and his 2c rating is directly tied to his death hax. yes I know it's not reasonable to talk about resisting his ridiculously op death hax but Im honestly curios.
I mean not really? IT sounds like his fatehax will let him run away which would be a win via self bfr, as his opponent would just keep trying to beat him to death and yogiri would just keep running away while his fate hax just keeps stopping his opponent from killing him...
The pen or the sword wrote: I mean not really? IT sounds like his fatehax will let him run away which would be a win via self bfr, as his opponent would just keep trying to beat him to death and yogiri would just keep running away while his fate hax just keeps stopping his opponent from killing him...
My point is that his fatehax can make him incon 7-As immortals even if he doesnt run away
Honestly that bothers me more then the argument ainz controls the dark young and is 2c, atleast with that stupid theory I can follow the logical premise of it...Killing the world as justification for 6a...I can't really follow the logic period.
Sounds about right for over wanked ainz, Im still hopeful we'll get to 7a at some point (6c is the dream but short of ainz fighting the island dragon lord I don't see it happening, especially as the island dragon lord is supposedly pretty chill)
in case you were wondering, 6-B comes from Volume 10 saying battle against PDL (or the Dragon Emperor idk) would result in their country being burned to ash, and likely 6-A comes from Evileye saying Demi's Razor claws could cut through anything in the world, and a continent is part of the world
It was all right, Im not really sure about the mana potion plot device (Could undead even use potions?) or ainz promising to many guards as far as cannon goes, not to mention Im pretty sure ainz mana would recover quickly enough to simply create ten more death knights.
They are only mid tier undead and he's been creating them enmass for quite some time)
Also the subplot about it taking to many resources to transport some from erantel makes zero sense as gate would allow ainz to simply tp to e rantel grab ten deathknights and portal back to nazerick without anyone knowing.
The gag potion while funny and does sound like something from yggdrasil also probably would have better been explained as one of lucifers pranks seeing as he was the guilds prankster. I also have some doubts about such an item overcoming an undeads immunity to mental/posion effects. (It actually reminds me of the party popper from ple ple pleides)
The idea behind the story is nice enough I suppose and I do beleive demi and the gaurdians would be rather understanding after the shock wore off (I also like demi's distancing himself while he dealt with the implications) but Im also not sure about demuirge buying into the idea of ainz telling the truth in this scenario, especially with the mind altering potion in play.
As Ive said before without the knowledge we have on ainz and his inner monlouge it would be far easier to buy he's a hyper genuis then lucky
So in the end I liked it well enough it was an enjoyable read for what it was.