Yeah, and that create gaps with the current scalling, like Galaxian Explosion (3-B) being trillions of times more powerful than Aries Mu (4-A) for example, it doesn't make sense at all
Like, with 3-B Gold Saints, 3-A feats become more acceptable and consistent, and some characters that are around three times the power of a Gold Saint could receive a "Likely 3-A", Thanatos for example
The Aries Mu feat of sealing Iapeto dimenison makes no snese in general... iapeto and Aries Mu had 3-A feats in that fight.. and Iapeto has better feats later on..
Thanatos and Hypnos are going to get a massive Upgrade. Thanatos broke the libra wepaons which were able to break through the Pillars of Poseidon which scales above "The combined power of 12 Gold Saints"
For Hypnos it took Hax + the Combined might of 2 God Cloth users to kill him iirc, and Hypnos should should scale above Morphia who was defeated by God Cloth Tenma
I disagree with scaling from Saga in general tbh. There is a lot of counter feats
currently im working on a page for the verses "Power source" so i don't have to do 99999edits spaning over 20+ profiles again in a time span of 4 days, and then i need to get a few abilities looked at very closely by some stuff and get heir opinions on them
But i can link you any CRT's i make for the future
yeah there will be a revision of doing that coming (Primaryily Episode G, and Assassins - The main issue though is the timeline of events), but i haven't made it to those series yet. Right now im working on a page for the verse so i don't have to do 9999999+ Edits spanning over 20 profiles in 3 days again
Something that does concern me is his 3-A key in verse battles. Im not entirely sure until i get back to lost canvas and re-read it, but that Key i believe is supposed to be "Alone" and not "Hades."
very big probably massive(Assuming if everything i have in mind is accepted) also, more clairty on where their "Resistances" come from
Like almost everyone has resistance to "Space" and "Time" manipualtion but no clairfy or specification on it, but i do know of a way to jusitfy it
My biggest enemy is going to be translating stuff and trying to get "Correct" tiering (At least in my opinion the correct tier - Opinions have clashed on that before when AP was brought up)
When re-reading through the series again now. Im learning more than when i did a few years ago and inbetween. there is a few things i need to have a few staff members look at it for clairty on "If they are what they seem"
an example of those would be High godly regen, Abstract Existence type 1, and Non-existent Phyiology (and characters interacting with them), also immeasurable speed stuff, along with Regen Negation, Immortality Negations, and resistance to those
Some things that are more clear cut Resistance to Time Manipulation (Time Stop), Petrification (should apply to everyone), and Law Manipulation (For 8th sense users)
Passive Existence Erasure, (For Dunamis users, and likely those who mastered the 9th sense), Power Draining, and Biological Manipulation (They drain people of cosmo, and they disable brain which is how shaka had to stop Ikki's 6th sense) Fear (Or Empathic Manipulation) the gods can instill different kinds of emotion on characters around them Athena can instill Love + Fear, and Typhon just straight up instills fear), Madness Manipulation (By invoking the name of a god it causes someone to go made - unless through divine intervention, or permission)
Active abilities Chaos manipulation and the elements (Dunamis)
Deconstruction (For Dunamis users, and likely those who mastered the 9th sense) Possibly Resistance Negation?? (Unsure on that one, but Dunamis deconstructs/decomposes atoms and it works on characters who have resistance Matter manipulation)
Thats off the top of my head, there is more but im on my phone right now
Im going arc by arc currently on Hades arc, but im working on a page for the verses power for cosmo, perhaps the biggest thing out of Hades arc will be Low Godly Regen for 8th sense users, resistance to Law Manipulation, and Statisitic Reduction + i will need to learn to separate keys
The fundamental laws of physics are inherently dimensionless, and they would effectively be the same in higher-dimensional spaces going by a mathematical, more fundamental sense, they would only operate differently in a physical sense, and that would be due to the additional axis of movement inherent to the higher-dimensional space; say, the newtonian law of gravitation would be the same mathematical principle within a universe of 4 dimensions, but the way it functions would appear different because, for example, orbits work differently in more than 3 dimensions.
The bolded part is what confuses... the laws of physcis is seperate from dimensionality? Does that make Physics manipualtion, or certain types of Law Manipulation 1-A, by default???
Now that the difference between Scalar and Vector Quantities is established, it is fairly easy to see where I am going with this, as I mentioned earlier: energy is a scalar quantity, and so are mass and speed, the quantities which are used to measure energy, and by extension, power, in the first place. Hence, energy is a dimensionless concept, and is fully independent from direction or displacement. This obviously doesn't mean that any higher-dimensional being is about as strong as lower-dimensional ones period, rather, it just means energy is a constant that is independent of dimensionality, and would exist regardless even in a universe of more than three dimensions
Does this also make Energy Manipulation 1-A also wouldn't this affect people who regenerated from purely just energy???
In short: No, no, and no. I disagree with those paragraphs anyway but those conclusions aren't supported by people who agree. I'll go ask Ultima for a more precise explanation of those paragraphs and relay it to ya.
Ah okay thats basically what i was questioning because of that wording... Do you know if there is mroe changes to come in the future???? the tiering system thread seemd to have went from Dimensional straight to Outterversal changes in like < 20 comments
"dimensionless" can be 1-A depending on the context as for example Dark Tower as a whole has a realm that is outside of the dark tower which the latter has uncountably infinite dimensions and it's called "macroverse" where it was stated to have no dimensional properties. But this hierarchy is outside the reach of dark tower itself.
Yeah, pretty much what Agnaa said up there. The thing about energy and physical laws and constants being invariable and dimensionless in nature refers to them (and Scalars in general) being mathematically modelled as, and represented by 0-dimensional structures. It has nothing to do with what we currently treat as 1-A.
If Thanos was still 2-C, I still personal think Hades can beat him. I mean come on Thanos doesn't have Acausality Type 4. While Hades can use Fate Hax and Causality Manipulate to counter Thanos's bullcrap. Hades's sword should be able to finish Thanos off too.