So as not to derail the thread of Baam vs Luffy, I will comment on Madness / Fear Hax here
Baam and other characters should have this, since too much shinsoo concentration in the environment can make people with normal resistance to shinsoo goes to crazy, as Lero-Ro had commented and shown it happening, so if too much shinsoo is used or at least it in great concentration, could probably cause passive madness/fear manipulation
Although, I can see this probably only being applied to Rankers wave controllers or even most High Rankers (who are far better in shinsoo control than Lero-Ro, who is a Light Bearer and are said to be able to occupy all positions with no problem) and talented regulars wave controllers (like Baam and others, probably)
The issue is, that for most characters this is the effect of the tower itself. Where the Shinsoo is strongest usually. It is why it is only a real deal on higher floors.
It is kind of a matter of how much you wanna believe it. Even so, it is likely not possible in character. I think.
It is CRT worthy, because there is another argument that could be used. IE: Most Heavy Shinsoo has been shown to effect weaker people by making them terrified or mad, but it is bits and pieces.
pick a scene with white/hoaquin basically and you find plenty of proof.
Since option 3 and 4 were added, I was asked by Ant to check whether you maintain your vote or not, as the majority voted before we introduced 3 and 4.
Option 3 :
1-C remains unchanged
The current 1-B becomes Low 1-B
The current High 1-B becomes 1-B
High 1-B becomes the tier for up to uncountably infinite higher planes/dimensions/stuff
Low 1-A: More or less a better defined current "baseline" Outerversal, up to any finite number of higher levels above it.
1-A: Infinite Outerversal Hierarchies. Though it doesn't necessarily have to be layers/levels, sheer power/size equivalent to this also qualifies
High 1-A: Denoting characters who exist above Outerversal hierarchies altogether, and lie beyond any scale.
0 becomes a tier for all-encompassing characters who exist fully beyond the scope of the rest of the system.
It's basically the higher tiers of Option 1, but without the disadvantage of compressing the lower tiers.
TL;DR : Option 3 = Option 1 Outerversal and above tiers + Option 2 lower tiers. (Or Option 1 but decompressed in the lower tiers)
Option 4 :
1-C and 1-B are unchanged
Low 1-A becomes the tier for uncountably infinite dimensions
1-A remains baseline Outerversal and up
High 1-A becomes the tier for transcending outerversal hierarchies
0 remains the same as the above
Outerverse level has its definition changed from primarily being about existing "beyond-dimensionality" to existing in abstract states of being which cannot be reached by stacking lesser infinities together. Simpler + more straightforward.
The higher parts of the system itself start to have a defined metric as well, namely, Aleph Numbers. To give you a brief primer on what they are and how they work, I'd need to establish some important distinctions here: Primarily, one between Cardinal Numbers and Ordinal Numbers.
MYHERO and I have made a Discord server to help with implementing and monitoring the updates regarding the Persona verse in light of recent CRTs that have been long-since agreed upon but not yet applied. Since these updates encompass every instalment of the series, we need every Persona knowledgeable we can. Your help would be appreciated.
I think so? I am not sure.
He was using a wave explosion I think, not sure.
I am more surprised the attack woke up him to begin with, but considering the recent fastpass episode, I guess I shouldnt be. OVO
Yeah sure, seems fine.
Doom in his weakened state is hard to pin down tbh.
But he should be above Charlie obv.
And Idk if he is comparable to Yuri.
I guess can scale him to Karaka, but then again I am getting mixed scaling from this situation.
Make one on Paul too, the three brothers pretty much safely scale to one another. OvO
Yama confirmed even Doom in his weakened state is someone who is hard to Karaka defeat, escaling Paul to Doom and Yama is wrong, obviously he is the weakest between the three and even Yama confirmed he could kill Paul or several of him without any problem, as well the Paul don't want to Yama woke up because of his massively strength difference