After see how smooth your revision is im feel a little bit jealous, but indeed your CRT is close to perfect, meanwhile my CRT takes many Times even almost didnt get attention at all, it cant be Helped since the series is still new and my CRT is far from great CRT you create, im not too good at wording something, do you mind to check it? Please
Just some literally who coming to pay my respects to the one essentially leading something of a "Shinza-Renaissance". I haven't visited these parts in a long time and am both fairly surprised and impressed to have all I've known about the inner workings of Masada turned on it's head. I just wanted to say that I appreciate your work and will be looking forward to what may come. Know that you have my full support, I'll be cheering for ya!
Transcendental Self-Consciousness - however, even all of the above, is only a pale shadow of the real power of the Goddess of Creation. All that has been described before is just a game, a game of big explosions and squeezes, a game of ability, a game of quantitative and qualitative power. In fact, the power of the Goddess of Creation is indescribable and arbitrary beyond that; she does not need any abilities, no weapons, or anything else, in the most direct and comprehensive concept. What has been described before is the authority of the "Domain of God," but it does not apply to God himself. As soon as Lufasu reached the same state as Arovinas, all that has been described above - now has no meaning and is marked as unnecessary. Although, of course, she can use any of those abilities, just out of a whim.
God - there is no concept of power. Concepts, meaning, even the limitations themselves, all this is created by God. These concepts are not in his kingdom. Create yourself without permission. This is the divine power, You - you can All.
Perfect condition - all this time the Goddess of Creation was absolutely unattainable for any attacks from the perspective of a dimensionless canvas, however her status was not absolute for her similar being, Transcendental Self-Consciousness could hurt her, albeit temporarily, this was possible solely due to the personality of Arovina herself , she was looking for herself equal for many billions of years, respectively, her status was in that particular state of her personal identification, so an equal being could damage her. Thus, Lufas, who achieved a similar indescribability, with a wave of her hand blew Arovina's hand, in the form of a temporary wound.
You are strong, but I am stronger - in the kingdom of God there is no point in thinking about strength. "The limit of strength , " "How strong I am," there is no point in thinking about such useless things. There is only one thing worth thinking about: “You are strong, but I am stronger.” This is an absolute law. “The ultimate universe?” I have not the foggiest idea. Infinitely rising power? I do not care. Can you redefine any parameters? So what. I am stronger than all of them. ”That is how Transcendental Self-Consciousness works. From now on, the statuses of Lufasu instantly turn into a state of infinity, and infinities continue to be displayed at any level, regardless of the height taken, no matter how complex and large the cosmic structure is, Lufasu will still be truly infinite on any of these planes of existence, they, their complexity and quantity, in principle, means nothing to her. There are no more techniques or special weapons, it is tiring to think about it [?] . The power of any blow is unlimited.
Personal perspective - a creature with such power can become stronger, only from the perspective of itself, or a similar creature. There are no restrictions in principle, Arovinas is able to arbitrarily and qualitatively build up strength relative to itself, without any restrictions. In other words, when she attacks a creature similar to herself, she strikes with unlimited power, the attacked creature, in turn, strikes back to infinity stronger than this, and so on, an arbitrary number of times, the collision of attacks of such creatures is capable of sweeping away hierarchies of super-dimensional planes and those above them, and so on, but since all this has absolutely no meaning or significance, all this will not be enough even to cause at least 1 scratch to any of them. “This” goes beyond battle, if before it was a game of increasing and decreasing influence, a game of big explosions and contraction, now it’s not even a battle. This is an endless battle, reaching infinity, infinitely multiplying infinity, again and again.
Self-awareness- however, even all of the above does not affect Transcendental Self-Consciousness. The absolute personality of Lufasu cannot be destroyed even by a creature with a similar level of power, which can all of the above. If the strength of her body depends on herself and her personality, then her self-consciousness is not restrained even by this and, in principle, can not be destroyed. The very fact of "death" is an abstract something that is not in the area of "possible achievement", no, it is a purely personal
characteristic, it is self-refutation, such a creature can be wounded only if it wants to. That is, in simple terms, if the Goddess of Creation Arovinas has been looking for an equal for billions of years (a doll from a meta-sandbox that will not do what she is told), she stopped at the fact that she found herself equal. Lufasu is a completely different case Lufasu is not looking for his peers - Lufasu is the strongest. Therefore, in the battle between them, Lufasu will still come out victorious, although they have absolutely identical power, she simply considers herself stronger.
Sorry but can i bother you one more? I just got new scans, what about this?
Goddess of Creation - the power of the goddess Arovinas cannot be measured when Rufusu looked at her with her eyes, he did not know what to show. It is just pointless. But let's say, if you try to express it with the number 9, they will last as long as the extent this space has - endlessly. And it still will not even remotely correspond to reality.
Large Compression- the process of compression of the universe, in which it collapses into a singularity. It is enough to wish Arovinas and the White Room is immediately compressed, after which it becomes clear that the infinite, white space is a molecule in the environment of higher, infinite space. A molecule that coexists with an infinite number of the same cell molecules. Following this, the higher space shrinks again, showing the same effect. And then again. Once again. Then 100 contractions occur immediately. Arovinas can arbitrarily increase this structure, demonstrating qualitative differences between each infinite layer, at each level of which there will be an infinite number of the same cell-molecules adjacent to it. Moreover, even ordinary inhabitants of the White Room will not be affected by the building up of this hierarchical staircase,
The cosmos of higher space - on any of the arbitrary layers of existence, Arovinas can define cosmogenesis as a universe (or rather, they themselves are defined this way), respectively, at any of these qualitative levels, Arovinas can control the cosmos in any way. The goddess with kindness reaches out to her children, immediately the White World disappears, they are transported into the hypercosm, surrounded by giant stars, which are thousands of times more than the sun. Next, hypernova explosions burn out the metaverse.
Laughter - finally meeting her equal, Arovinas laughed out loud, only half of all existing universes ceased to exist, and the time of the whole multi-hierarchical cosmos broke and all being froze in complete silence.
Parameter Definition- the power of the Goddess of Creation is far beyond the bounds of a simple, brutal destructive force that would build up qualitatively. Arovinas has no weaknesses; one cannot build a strategy against it. There is no convenient trick that will violate its power, no matter how aggressively and boldly do everything, there is no way to overcome it by force. It would be very convenient if she had an obvious weak point. For example, a special object, the destruction of which would weaken it. Or an object that can suppress its power. Or a skill that could cause her special damage. A sword that can kill the gods. A special super weapon, with absolute power to kill. But no. There is nothing of the kind. The goddess is not perfect, in general, it is not difficult to deceive. But - she is the strongest and stands above all. It was this force that created these shortcomings. Any inhabitant of the White Room has a transcendental, dimensionless nature, his strength remains fixed regardless of the length of the hierarchy, but this is only an empty phrase against the background of Arovina’s strength. She considers any possibilities and any abilities not as “something”, to which a logical operation on a concept is applied, which serves to reveal its contents, but as something that has no meaning in principle. This applies to any form of existence, as well as to specific abilities, physical and transcendental states, special abilities, destructive power, speed, and anything else, without exception. She considers any possibilities and any abilities not as “something”, to which a logical operation on a concept is applied, which serves to reveal its contents, but as something that has no meaning in principle. This applies to any form of existence, as well as to specific abilities, physical and transcendental states, special abilities, destructive power, speed, and anything else, without exception. She considers any possibilities and any abilities not as “something”, to which a logical operation on a concept is applied, which serves to reveal its contents, but as something that has no meaning in principle. This applies to any form of existence, as well as to specific abilities, physical and transcendental states, special abilities, destructive power, speed, and anything else, without exception.
Infantile power - if you imagine the battle of small children, one of them imagines that he is launching a large beam, and the other pretends to be protected by a shield. A ray must break through this shield, the boy insists on it. But the other child is strikingly opposed, no, the shield is stronger. This is the power of Arovinas. She can't lose, no reason. Its power is unlimited, it can override settings. Suppose the enemy has different forces that can defeat her. Then she will simply say, “I can surpass this force, and I am so strong that I will overcome you with one finger.” This is certainly childish, she will not deny.
Nah, you are knowledge on Masadaverse with your explanation i can figured out why Hadou Gods above her but why the fk i found another ridiculous scan? Is this verse really that big? Well i Will translate the scan, it Will take 2 month or more tho, all that above is just some translation i found
honestly i have no clue. Are servants considered ressurected beings? Cuz that would kinda fall into schrezo's territory of effect. Due to eiherjars being similar as rein resurrects them as well as gladsheimr ren's won't let the ded come back worked. I think servants fall into that state This will trigger nasu fans but no clue tbh. Likely a massive debate And war
sorry for the late response, since u want me to go to your wall to have the question, let me reiterate it. Does throne have any tiering at all despite it just being a tool for gods to paint in the cosmo?
All of creation, right from the beginning of Shinza up to the present, are within the Throne - including the Singularity.
That’s why “nothing” is outside of the Throne, because it basically encompasses all that exist.
And what makes the gods so strong isn’t the fact that the Singularity is a hierarchy, it’s the fact that the very concept of the Singularity and the Throne would have never come into existence without Taikyoku. - all that do not possess Taikyoku are equally as “insignificant” and “real” to the gods; they are merely picture for them to paint over: be it the Singularity, the Throne or the rest of creation, there is no difference between them to the gods at all.
Also, I’d appreciate if you can stop with the Hajun talk, yes, he’s very likely powerful enough to match and surpass more than half of the current tier 0s, but 1-A matches are absolute garbage that I don’t want to participate in.
You can also ask stuffs on Discord, since I’m more likely to be there than here. Ravenous4th#6480
Hi Raven. So since you’re pretty knowledgeable when it comes to Masadaverse, can you do me a favor? Can you show me a scan where it says that the difference between the values of Taikyokus are completely transcendent to one another in a dimensional like fashion? Thanks in advance.
But I think you're getting something wrong, there isn't a single quote that directly tells us how large the gap between 1 value actually is. Heck, even the quote only shows that "unless you have the same value/quality, you will not be able to affect him in any manner."
"the difference between the values of Taikyokus are completely transcendent to one another in a dimensional like fashion"
What caused people to think so was the scaling from the fight between Satanel's clone and Shiori, in which the latter was horribly stomped even after overlapping her infinite possibilities ( meaning that their difference was greater than countably infinite. ) without even taking the fact that they had the same value into account.
In short, it is a misconception, the differece between 1 taiji value is actually unquantifiably greater than dimension-like given that dimension-like difference was already present within the same value.
If you haven't noticed by now, several things are misunderstood about Masadaverse thanks to the the absence of most knowledgeable members.
Since you apparently closed the other thread before I got the chance to finish writing this, I'll just drop it here. Though, I'm pretty sure that you're viewing me in a negative light now.
I apologize for coming off seemingly as an ass, I didn't mean to offend you, nor make fool of you in any manner. I mistakenly thought you didn't understand that Sera was pretty much saying the same thing I did because that one post of yours.
If my inability to accurately convey my feelings through text is what caused you to think I did so, then I'm sincerely sorry.
Just to sorta let ya know despite I could have done it on the actual thread (I stopped followimg it for how stupid it is rn), but AL’s no longer active here. Dood pretty much retired a while back earlier in the yr.
Trexalfa IDK of him cuz I haven’t seen him around here for a while. Normally though he’d be in chat but again, been a long while since I last saw him here.
I can’t blame them really. Compared to SB or Animesuki, this place is juat terrible as it’s juat headcannon for people who assume stuff beyond the profiles. Granted we’re pretty much dependent on either translated VN’s (which ofc may not always have the full accurate TL) or people who havw read the OG JAP ver and can translate it.
I can’t do the latter but if I did and really wish I could, I would limit it to those I know I can talk to those that know what’s being talked about and not rely on headcannons or of the sort.
Ah. Then again I’m only really here for verses I like and all really. So far my fave atm is What a Beautiful Series. Really good and actually pretty interesting. Just wish it had more translations but whatever.
Woah I’ll give it a try, If I have some free time. Being a medical student is a pain in the buttocks.
Yeah, people there ( by people I mean 3 circlejerkians who apparently share their hatred for all VNs bar Umineko ) use their own dimensional tiering and headcanon interpretation. Shits like “transcending concept of Dimensions means you’re 6D” are the norm.
You can even see things like Meng Hao soloing Umineko there.
Lel. Problem is more of everyone trying to find a baseline and scale off from there...which pretty much applies even up to 1-A. -_-
Oh yeah I should mention about WAB. You’re probably gonna not know a lot cuz the verse has a publisher that requires you to join in or something to get more content not released in the original VN’s. There’s also stuff like guides and novels but idk if that’s member exclusive or not. (Shrugs)
Remember when ALRF talked about Singularity? I think I figured out what he was trying to say. But I agree, what is baseline Outerversal in the first place? These beings are supposed to be beyond our dimensioned logic, beyond our measurements.
I’ll see it for myself I guess. First glance, it seems that there are some top tier waifu material though.
Some more things about WAB if you ever happen to get into it and like it, you'll be in for quite a number of characters whose names you might be familiar with that end up being quite different than what you would normally know. Especially someone like a certain man of electricity lol.
There's also a blog the creator made for publishing WAB stuff unofficially...which is quite odd and I still DK as to why but it's there so eh. Interestingly there is another work they have that may or may not be made in ENG called "Mushoku no Ulthar - END of the Shining World" that I'm particularly looking forward to...assuming what's actually on the blog will be finally made as it's been planned for a while for several years but never quite went beyond a teaser.
Anywho, ever read Silverio? Heard that was supposed to get some localization at some point and still is, just not with Light considering what happened to them (poor Light tho...).
I haven’t read Silverio, I was actually hoping for it to get a translation.
Unfortunately, Light is gone. The author will still continue making the sequel though, which will be the last entry of the Silverio series.
No prob. It's an alternative to verses like Masada to relax from and enjoy.
Other than that, there's not much else I've gotten into sans Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken and another series that I...really didn't get to progress much for a lot of reasons but am trying to get to on here. There's also another one but it's the same thing here. That and gacha games like Fate/Grand Order and Azur Lane (basically think warships but moe-fied/anime-fied).
IKR? It sucks what happened to Light though cuz even Masada felt pretty down on his Twitter. And another Silverio entry? Interesting, though if it's what I think it is, I thought that wasn't a sequel unless this is actually one and is the last one...in which case we got a Silverio Trilogy lol.
Just have to wait on translations~
Edit: Found it, it was "Beyond the Horizon" is what I was thinking about. If it's not that, then that's news for me to hear.
Oooooh. Now THAT's interesting. No doubt it'll be more broken if it's anything I last heard of it, though chances are it'll be another Masada situation with people either making headcannons or, in one case I ran into with this, make a comment about something that's not a page and not providing an actual source of it even if it came from said series. Doesn't matter if it's just text, something I know that can tell what it is then I'll believe it.
Dood at this point I've pretty much disconnected from a few threads I'd be in if it wasn't for how stupid it came with the discussions and the people in it. Masada is one and the thing that's going on right now isn't the first time that's happened that I've seen and definitely from other people. Same with Nasu and those there sans one person whose I can at least get into a real talk with. So really don't be sorry about it xD
Yeah the moment Pantheon got into the mix, people went HARD on it and I...yeah idek what else to really say other than the fact that I know IF and or WHEN it does get produced whenever, the power scale (and annoying talk) will skyrocket here lol.
But really even as it is now, people still go apeshit on it. I just want a masada gacha game to lose more money lol.
Ah. And nah Jin didn't make AL, although he IS a part of the games team to make the anime of it lol.
Yeah I saw that...and one of many reasons why I stopped following the Talk thread lol.
Always amazed to see how persistent people can be when it comes to stuff like this. Wonder why they even bother if they can't ever understand the series or try to read, but no instead they have to leech off from other people who can either A) Read/speak JAP B) Have read Masada/Shinza. Or C) Can/have done both.
Granted I'm of the same but at least I don't bother other people about stuff like this. When I and AL used to talk frequently before he went AWOL (though last I checked he was really busy with school so I'm not really bothered by his lack of response), I tended to only ask him if I had to really double check on certain stuff in a given verse (Shinza and Silverio come to mind here but that's really what we really talk about when it comes to VN's lol). Sometimes he tells me stuff from either even when I don't ask about them but I guess it's just because we were cool and friends with each other and just talk about it lol.
I'm just going to say that I don't disagree about Naraka being 1-A, he was stated to house the Throne Gods who themselves are 1-A. I'm talking about how people highball the Throne to be able to encompass an infinite dimensional multiverse when Masada is so small in comparison to that.
I asked for a scan if by chance that I'm wrong and underestimating the cosmology.
I do not wish to continue the argument here, I just wanted to clear that and I agree to disagree. Well except for Hammer, his comments are wrong.(If you see this Hammer, reply to my profile.)
Yeah I'm back. I DID in fact ran into some trouble, most particularly something I should have done with permission asking but didn't really had any other way of doing it and even then, it was something I wasn't going to go through ALL the way beyond a certain point so...
That said, I'm back again from my little "time out" though going through it did give me some peace of mind so I'm not exactly gonna be in full-ish time here like before for now (not that I didn't have anything else to do beyond editing and commenting on one or two verse threads).