Hello, I would just like to know the size that The Immortal Astral Continent of Renegade Immortal could have since I see that Wang Lin comes out after his star systems, Sealed Realm, Outer Realm and Cave World, to reach The Immortal Astral Continent which is said to be much more massive than all combined
And thanks to you, I noticed I didn't properly change it, since he's Peak Foundation Establishment he's supposed to be "At least 6-C, likely High 6-C". And since apparently he can harm Cores with cold fire, we have to add a "6-B with cold fire" or something.
Also, if you're curious, the reasoning for the tiers and hax of the verse can be found here : AP, Tier, Speed
"Zhu Yi nodded his head gently. His expression was calm as he clapped his hands together. In the Hidden Dragon Gorge, Zhu Yi began to absorb different forms of spiritual energy. Before him, another tiny world was formed. Immediately, he trapped Xiao Budian, who had just escaped from the Great Boundaries of the Celestial Light and Darkness Mandala into it.
Xiao Budian's eyebrows jumped as he looked skywards. The stars in this universe were hurtling towards the ground as they morphed into comets that sought to smash against his head.
He then looked down as he realized the very earth was breaking apart. Giant crevices began to appear as a yawning canyon grew bigger and bigger, as if it wanted to swallow Xiao Budian whole.
A flood roared towards him, its waves were as high as the heaven itself. It galloped and roared towards Xiao Budian. At the same time, an endless inferno burned around him as they enveloped Xiao Budian.
A screaming wind, completely black, descended from the sky like a dancing, black dragon. At the same time, lightning and thunder crackled in the sky as they bolted towards Xiao Budian.
Gigantic mountains trembled and crumbled in a magnificent landslide, as they apparently sought to crush Xiao Budian underneath themselves.
Scars and crevices appeared on the ground underneath Xiao Budian, as they turned into swamps and muddy fields that seemed to go on forever. They sought to drag Xiao Budian down below.
In this tiny world, the heavens and earth churned. Fire and water clashed. The wind and thunder came together and the mountains and rivers up-ended each other.
In this world, it seemed like the apocalypse itself had came. Endless amount of disaster and dangers appeared and they all surged towards Xiao Budian.
"You ranked first amongst all disciples in terms of understanding about the our sect's secrets about creation itself," laughed Xiao Budian fearlessly, "However, to say that you could defeat me with these stuff, aren't you underestimating my abilities?"
Saying that, Xiao Budian's entire body trembled with wind and thunder. Then, he transformed into the Form of the Thunderstorm Demon and God about two meters high. It punched the strong gale and thunder, stomped the inferno and flood. It strode past the crevices and canyons on the ground as if they were flat ground and it did not even seem to care about the comets in the sky.
The mountains that were collapsing towards it were destroyed by him in one punch.
All forms of disasters were unable to overcome Xiao Budian. With every step he took, the tiny world trembled.
At the end, blood coursed ceaselessly through Xiao Budian's body, blazingly hot like the sun itself. It illuminated an entire corner of the world.
From the space, Zhu Yi's voice could be heard, calm and collected, "I have never underestimated you."
With that, two rays of black and white appeared in the small world, merging with the latter's elements.
XIao Budian did not realize something abnormal about it, but soon he realized that something additional had entered this small world that Zhu Yi had created.
Day and night.
The power of the light transformed into day, while the power of night transformed into night. Day and light exchanged non-stop. A sense of time appeared to have entered this world.
Time within this world was different from time outside, however. In the span of only a breath, it appeared that one day had passed. It was too fast for someone to even catch it, and if one were to be careless one would appear to have missed a few days within this tiny world.
To Xiao Budian, this was nothing. However, what was terrifying for Xiao Budian was the fact that the elemental attacks against Xiao Budian within the world sped up, till he could almost not react against them.
However, as soon as he regained his senses, he realized that half of his body had been stuck within the ground as floodwater gurgled over his head. Comets and asteroids struck against his head like rain.-" What tier would this be?
After asking around a bit, at least 6-C I'd say, possibly 6-B. And while some stuff seems higher there's nothing concrete for it.
The problem in HN1F is the flowery language, which is actually what held me back all along on making profiles for the verse. Sometime it's the case, but generally the flowery language is...flowery, and the line between feats and exageration is blurred. For exemple, "waves were as high as the heavens". One would also maybe see the "stars" stuff there, but a reader of HN1F would obviously know they're not actual stars, they were even said to turn into "comets".
Actual stars are big attacks that Syncretic Star Soul Demons, the (stronger) equivalent of Immortal Soul Third Level cultivators, do. Just like the Suan Ni Grand Sage attack when they invaded Emperor Yan City, around the latest releases.
No way CoreFormations would do that, for exemple.
The thing about Hn1F is that all the flowery language is also actually potentially feats in the future. For exemple, Lin Feng mastering the concept of creation and destruction of a universe. He obviously likely isn't a Universe buster now, but in the future as he grows stronger he'll be able to make these concepts and potential reality.
All of this why? To tell you to be extra careful of HN1F statements. Especially since the author uses "seems as", and "it was as if" a lot.
Haha, I digressed. So yea, the tiering that was discussed seeing these feats from unbiased viewpoint (I love Hn1F you know) and asking someone knowledgeable but who knows nothing about the verse :
Xiao Budian became trapped in the sacrificial altar, as if trapped in a small universe. Before him, the black emptiness of space was alight with stars and bright milky ways.
The Great Boundaries of the Celestial Light and Darkness Mandala!
From the milky way, Xiao Budian heard Zhu Yi's voice, "Little Junior has a point. I know this, of course, Little Junior actually think that I am that sort of person?"
"However, all combatants shall seek to obtain victory righteously and deftly. A combination of deftness and righteousness is the way to success."
From that voice, Xiao Budian could feel that the mandala world that Zhu Yi conjured had established Xiao Budian as its center and was rapidly collapsing onto him.
The entire formation began to collapse from underneath Xiao Budian's feet. The entire world that
Zhu Yi created now rushed towards its own destruction.
The entire mandala that Zhu Yi operated mimicked the powers of the destruction of the heaven and the earth. If it were to blow up in this instant, with Xiao Budian's mastery, there was only one thing that he could do.
"Yu!" Xiao Budian's expression was neutral and he did not panic. He raised his tiny fist, and the "Yu" mantra from the Xuanhuang Four-Word Mantra began to activate.
In that instant, the space was filled with a huge amount of energy. The entire light-and-darkness appeared to be filled with countless of columns as something appeared to have stabilized the world till it was as firm as a mountain.
See bro, this here is (one of) the perfect exemples of what I was talking about.
Just like that you'd think this is 3-B, but in context it clearly isn't, alognside the "as if" the author uses again....
Nerd Boy (Zhu Yi) is working on said concepts and mimicking that, but it's not truly that in his Mandala World. If actual galaxies were hurled to Xiao Budian he'd die. Not even Lin Feng of then would survive that.
I remind you they are Core Formation cultivators. Not even Immortal Soul ones reached said level...even the Cardinal Tribulations Zhujian Grand Sage's suicide attack was the power of a Star. As for why I am sure that this time it's not flowery language? Well, with the Suan Ni Grand Sage, when he used the power of a star the author said "an actual star".
The Geat Celestial World, the Divine Lands and the Barren Expanses would have been obliterated if such level of power was actually happening you know XD.
Anyway, case in point, 3rd level Immortal Souls barely finally have Star level attacks, no way Core Formations have multi-galaxy ones. Said Core Formations who at that level were around Mid-level Nascent Soul, and said NS never even in their wildest suicide attacks showed such feats.
They seem like insane feats, but they're analogies author uses that are barely able to be actually the case even at where I'm at, Chapter 1404.
We don't want Wank, but we also don't want Downplay, and I love History's Number 1 Founder. But I guess you understand my point by now, HN1F "feats" are really a case by case basis, to be studied with caution.
For Core, or rather for Lin Feng's disciple at Core, the safest tier is what I said above, in the first reply.
Power level is far from being meaningless. If there's one thing that's far from being meaningless in a Xianxia/Xuanhuan, it's power level. Someone like Wang Lin at Foundation Establishment might have a comprehension rivaling those of Nascent Souls, but said Nascent Soul would utterly stomp him in a battle. The closeness of their techniques with the Dao and their own comprehension do affect and gives an advantage against those with "normal" closeness at the same level, but all of those are but factors for said power level, along the occasional hax.