Thanks for this, my laptop is broken rn so i cant contribute freely (which sucks cause im done with Fei's page), but any other calcs you could possibly do? Would love any from any series to be honest, perhaps ones that scale the characters in season 1 or Go for a proper basis? Even if its The Wall or The Tower or something
& Thanks to the calc, we'll probs be making a start at discussions for the new tierings based on it, and then use that to see if there are any other feats we can use and can be calced. Good thing about Inazuma though, theres mutliple times we can use AP stacks for other characters. Theres a power level revision discussion on the Verse page if you wanted to look into it, but i'll let you know any other feats we may need calcing.
I've got another interesting feat that i feel might be worth calcing if you understand it
Double Shot is a move used by best girl Beta that requires the user to split the ball into two using Fission, which Beta does so with a kick, and then fuse these two balls back together via fusion to produce the energy. Is there a way to calculate how much energy both processes would require, apparently fusion requires a temperature 6x hotter than the suns core in order to occur. Feat is here
Well it's repetitive, and I've seen that you've discussed it a lot this since past year. But it's about Hissatsu and visual effects, I know there are Hissatsus that are visual effects, but do not you think the other majorities are not really real and interact? I mean, I want to do a topic about inazuma (and I am currently reviewing the classic, there are a lot of good things), I saw the profiles and I think some things could be added, how to calculate the energy that God Hand of Endou vs. God Hand of the Tachimukai generates in an explosion when they play against each other. In addition to the game quotes, do not you think we should consider the descriptions of the techniques to support their authenticity?
Now theres no doubt some hissatsu techniques do legit make some things to block a path like The Wall, but things like Tiger Drive are visual effects.
The energy of the God hands was a feat ive recorded and would like to get calced if it can, though im mor einterested in the Hakuryuu calc by generating a legit hurricane within seconds, and a few other feats and such, but no one seems to be interested in them.
As for the quotes...eh im a little skeptical on those. Not only would it make Hiroto Aliea arc Universe level, which even for Inazuma is a little crazy, but it just wouldn't fit in overall with the balancing and scaling. A lot of it seems like some really strong hypebole and the power jumps are legit crazy. Plus due to their joking nature, it can be passed off as hyperbole, but what moves do you think could be exceptions?
Yes I agree. But I think we should imagine that they are not spirits? For example, Tiger Drive is the shape of the Toramaru spirit, like the same idea of Majin the Hand, other example as we can see Beast Fang was literally a beast that appeared in the anime and game, but in the reboot we can see that the Genda incorporates a beast and that aura of him turns into that beast.
I think we should take the firmer ones on those, I also do not trust Hiroto at the level of the Universe in that moment, I think it's not Hyperbole, but an Outlier that is for this scaling and scaling, we can only choose those that are not as gigantic as this.
Besides that we have to consider that the Ryuusei Blade has been corrected in other games, to fit in that scale of Aliea Academy, which already shows that it is really an Outlier question, not hyperbole.
I dont know what you mean by aura, they sound a lot like Kenshins but those didn't exist in the original, though it seems Endou's majin creature was the same as the ones from majin the hand.
Im not sure we should take Ares when taking the original into consideration either, Genda summoned a beast but that could have easily just been another visual effect, not to mention that Ares has a lot more flashier hissatsu, however the problem with that is things like God Knows Impact, that literally tears the whole field apart but its fine straight after. Things like that have to be visual effects, however all those wall and barrier things should appear since they do actually interact with the ball and stop it. i honestly wish we got an explanation on what hissatsus actually are and how they work.
It has, but i doubt it was to properly scale power. Its such an annoying verse to scale but for now id rather we get proper calcs to some of the physical feats shown rather than rely on the statements. I've been using the anime as the main canon anyway since that shows us actually which hissatsus are stronger etc with no type bs
I understand, but the anime is just a Spin-off game, you can notice on the official inazuma website: https://www.inazuma.jp/
In the Hissatsus, I still think the correct terms for the descriptions of some of them are Outliers, not hyperbole. Basic things like "Planet boots" should be considered because they do not escape to an abnormal level, since it was the energy of the meteorite Aliea, and to take this the hyperbole would be negation with the work, since the premise of the plot is extraterrestrials and some humans being inbuidos of power by this meteorite.
I'm still reviewing the anime, and then I'll review the games extensively because there are explanations of what the hissatsus are, which are just special techniques that go beyond human limits.
Anyway, soon I'll do a post for revisions, the inazuma page is very incomplete, do not you think?
Not really, it started off that way, but the anime has overtaken the games on the majority of things now, like Orion and Ares. I'd like it if they coexisted but its hard in parts, so i just take some relevant notes on each. The anime and its feats should be used as the main though
Im not sure we should be taking what we deem fine though and rejecting others that come from the same source. The way the descs are written makes them sound more so like hyperbole than legit outliers, though they can also be that as no one has legit seen these characters do what the descs suggest.
I actually have reviewed the whole original series and did power scaling and stuff if it helps.
Its to the best of my ability, with the tier lists (rough guesses or so in parts, underlines symbolise equal/indecisive footing, with some individual feats and calcable ones
Id also like your opinion on saying hissatsu like Fire Blizzard or Dragon Tornado requires the sum of the two individual hissatsu to make (Atomic Flare + Northern Impact, Fire Tornado + Dragon Crash etc.), since that will help to an extent, im still trying to find ways Aliea can be separated from Zeus Aphrodi though.
Very interesting, I'm currently reviewing episode 59 (I started yesterday), I already got enough things too, when I finish that I'll put everything together on a topic, and if can add your own opinion about the text, it will be very good