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  • Hope it didn't come off as if I thought you were unreasonable. I think you're wrong, but honestly that felt like a very level headed back and forth between you and I. I do plan on speaking to other administrators regarding these issues off site and how tonaddress them, but I wanna say I appreciate how the talk didn't spiral into a mess like it could have.

    Have a nice night m80.

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    • No worries, I enjoyed our discussion and got some good insight on how others think about these sort of subjects. I may come off sorta like an ass but it's not intentional most of the time, I just really have trouble getting my point across alot of the time and feeling how others feel about these types of things. Although I do feel that I am right, I trust the decision of the staff regardless.

      Good night.

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    • Also, maybe a good option in these types of situations would be to talk to these individuals one on one or in a group discussion, level with them. It seems their dislike of the way sonic is handle lead to these insults and negativity, it wouldn't hurt and one can make a better judgement of their character and intent behind those actions.

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  • Hi dieno, how are you?

    Well regardless of that I am trying to make a thread so that mundus gets more hax (I will not stop until the god tier of dmc becomes ness :v) and I already have it and that, but there is one that I need help and it is Conceptual manipulation Well here is what I have achieved to make the context fit in the concep hax.

    If we manage to do this, Void Mundus would step on to Saint Seiya in 3A since they do not resist corruption and hax diseases.

    Conceptual manipulation is composed of a primordial energy that gave life to existence and if they believe that this is very vague because God of War primaries have a conceptual manipulation only for everything that exists in the God of War verse, whether physical or not, it came from them. https://ibb.co/bgypnTx https://i1.mangareader.net/devil-may-cry-3/1/devil-may-cry-3-1644919.jpg In addition to that, a creation of the world itself has a feat that causes an effect on nature itself, so that it is not physical but that it itself is afraid of it. https://ibb.co/F6NrJdq

    If they disagree, then the entity of life (DC post crisis) has Abstract Existence (The Life Entity is the manifested form of creation and life of the universe), Conceptual Manipulation (Type 4: The Life Entity is linked to all living beings in the universe),

    And void mundus is connected to the human and demonic world since it is the nexus and dante is connected to the demonic world of his timeline and apparently this scales to all demons since mundus was also connected to the demonic world but to the point that It is almost destroyed after its defeat. https://m.imgur.com/a/mBxI08U https://m.imgur.com/Tj7n4Vo https://prnt.sc/nel2m7 https://prnt.sc/nel1nb https://ibb.co/sy6TJK5

    how about?

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    • Hello Oliver, I'm fine thanks for asking. Now to get down to business.

      I'm not good at dealing with powers such as concept manipulation or the logic behind it so I can't give a proper response to your proposal but I believe in order for this to qualify as concept manipulation, Mundus has to be stated or proven to be the creator of the darkness. There is probably some form of concept manipulation here from manipulating the entire demon world's energy or state but it wouldn't be anything special and not worthy of mentioning in verses battles.

      Hopefully this gave you some insight but it would probably be better to ask someone else about this topic.

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    • OK, I already asked DarkGrath and he answered that I was in a neutral point and that it looked more like the flowery language.

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  • Hello!

    Link to Wuxiaworld : https://www.wuxiaworld.com/

    Wuxiworld server : https://discord.gg/mqttw4a

    Renegade Immortal chapter 1 : https://www.wuxiaworld.com/novel/renegade-immortal/rge-chapter-1



    Have a nice day!

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    • I would've read it to completion either way so it's fine. And once again, thank you for the help.

      Have a nice day.

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    • Aye, you as well :). Glad to help.

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  • I'd like to apologize if my posts come off as aggressive in our conversations, it's not my intention.

    I would hate to come off as rude, that's all.

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    • Don't worry about it, you don't sound rude or aggressive at all, at least not to me.Even if you think you did it's only natural, you sometimes can't help but be brutally honest.

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    • Could you join chat for a second?

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  • Hello Dienomite, how are you ?

    So, I'm working in a profile for the Beastheads, can you please take a look ? I need some help to make it as good as possible you you showed a great knowledge about the novel ;)

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    • Basically.It's described as "oppressive", "almost tangible" , smells like sulfur and ozone and produces the same feeling of dread and fear that a human being in the Demon World would feel.It's the same black aura that Chen and Ducas had.It also seems to be tied to the weather because it died down as soon as the weather began returning to normal so it's range is like the same as the weather manipulation.

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    • Then again if it's tied to the weather it could be considered catastrophic-indusing aura as well 

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  • I was thinking if argosax did cause the eclipse while sealed away at the time would that scale to possessed arius and arius argosax

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    • I'll make the thread, repost these into the thread when it's up.

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  • https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:2914302

    Wanna drop by? Limbo is already winning. Need some fra's.

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  • Hey, thanks for having an OP with actual links and succinct points and stuff! Anyway, I hope I was helpful. Even with my history of being the guy who passed 3-A to begin with and getting the cold shoulder when people waited six months for me to take leave before tearing it down as soon as I went out the door,I don't really have much investment in any fandom site's whatever. But I do enjoy trying out these debate skills I picked up in other circles; seemed to have worked well, since I reduced the opposition to just one major voice (and a few of those "reasons above" types lol) attacking strawmen and insisting we use his scattershot of improbable interpretations instead of a simple, apparent, consistent explanation.

    But the thing is, you do know the users of the site aren't familliar with the laws of logic and such, right? You might find someone who can identitfy a fallacy if you're lucky -- we weren't -- but I think people are so used to having their overconfident gurus feed them blandly apparent exposition to know how to use reasoning to come to a conclusion, especially in a case as complex as this. Do you think the issue worth pushing any further? I mean, we could continue to call out fallacies and such, but you saw how Matt was blatantly ignoring my points in favor of grilling smaller fish to look tough and bury the best posts of the threead. Psychology/presentation is at least half the debate, and you know how people like their status quos.

    So anyway, I guess I could lend a hand if my schedule and internet connection can accomidate me, but I'd like to hear if you think it'd be worth the trouble. I'm interested to see if this sort of puzzle can be solved, but dealing with poisoned well and faulty methodology isn't very fun, especially when others are acting as if their worldview's at stake.

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    • I don't think it should be pursued anymore even if logic, reason and lore lines up it doesn't matter unless they have a statement.I wouldn't worry about this anymore especially with your circumstances I don't want you to be bothered by these meaningless by comparison hobby work just for all your hardwork to get turned down.

      But if you wish to pursue it, I would try to contact Bingo Morihashi or Itsuno for feat related stuff since they both were around since the time of DMC2, Bingo is the writer for most DMC material and he answers some questions related to DMC's plot.

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    • Aaaaaand the gun got jumped by someone else within a teo-minute timeframe of your response. But I'm going to try to get someone to get some confirmation first. It'd be good if we hurried up and got that done before someone went and asked manipulative questions.

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  • Zimatorn shouted you in his newest vid [1]

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  • Can you link me the spoilers

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    • Dunno, the Beastheads would outclass Mundus's generals but by an undeterminable ammount.They should be weaker than Void Mundus.

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    • Here a some quick evidence for infinite in size Demon World:

      According to the DMC 2 guidebook, the guidepost for hunter chapter 11 clause 7 states that just the approach of the Demon World warped the city into "circles fo infinite confusion" and "infinite circles" and fucked time.

      Devil May Cry, Enemy File — Sargasso: "They hide between the edges of the sea and the Underworld. They wait for stray wanderers and feast on them. The spirits of the victims are destined to wander the endless sea of the Underworld."

      "The world was born from darkness. Unending darkness. A crucible of chaos. But even to that primordial existence there came a ray of light. The universe was eventually split in two. The darkness became the realm of demons... and the light became the domain of mortals. The two worlds existed together for what seemed like an eternity. But one day the lord of the dark world said... "These realms were once united, so why not rule them as one?" From that era forward, the dark fought to control the light, and the light struggled to defy the dark." -DMC3 manga

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