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A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story.

Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or the Dragon Ball/One Piece/Toriko special episode. Given the multiple inconsistencies and lack of canonicity to their original source materials, using these crossovers to scale to canon or canon feats to scale to non-canon original characters is forbidden. Exceptions are that original characters may scale to their own feats or feats seen in the crossover. For example, Dark Kahn has a legitimate 2-C feat, but it does not scale to anyone but him.

Onesided crossovers officially take place within one continuity, but not the other. Given that some characters may be parodies of their original counterparts, they could potentially get a separate profile scaling from the other verse based on their importance to the story.

One example is the version of Dante in Shin Megami Tensei, who is based on his Devil May Cry counterpart, with the same name and appearance, but a slightly altered story to fit in more with the Shin Megami Tensei verse. However, the character in question may not be used to scale to the Devil May Cry cast.

Profiles for crossovers not canon to the main story of one or more of the franchises involved may only be created according to the regulations defined in the Canon page.

Canon crossovers officially take place within both continuities, and as such recurrently happen within a shared universe or feature characters made by the same creators. Examples include Mario Vs Donkey Kong or Dead or Alive/Ninja Gaiden. It is canon to both franchises and feats/scaling may be used if they are consistent.

We still have to differentiate between characters of different comparative power levels within the verses, and there may be outliers and Plot-Induced Stupidity, which are rules that still apply to linear canon verses.

Additionally, the feats seen or taken from the crossover may be consistent to one verse and not the other. There could be impressive feats seen as consistent with the established scale of one franchise, but that lack consistency with the otherwise featless franchise. We should only use scaling that does not contradict the statistics of the franchises, and need to use common sense for case-by-case analysis in addition to this.

This includes considering the contexts based on the nature or portrayal of the characters. For example, while Final Fight has shown very limited feats, characters such as Mike Haggar, Cody, and Hugo are consistently comparable to various Street Fighter characters and could scale to their feats.

Take note that crossovers should preferably be referenced within the separate story settings themselves at some point in order to count as official on each side.

Other issues to take into account:

Take note that crossovers will almost always rescale the power levels of the different characters for the sake of writing a more entertaining story. This can happen in both in-canon crossovers such as Dissidia Final Fantasy, in which tier 6 and tier 2 characters fought on equal grounds, and in non-canon versions, such as between Luffy, Goku and Toriko. As such the character appearing in the crossover should only be considered to be as powerful as the original if that isn't beyond the degree of power reasonable for the events in the story or other participants in the crossover.

Due to the above-mentioned story conventions, characters from different fictions should very seldom scale from each other even if the crossovers are official.

Most characters within the public domain should only be considered as powerful as the originals if the crossover explicitly references their feats and nature. For example many vampire stories reference Dracula as the original vampire, without the vampires in the franchise following the same rules as those of Bram Stoker. Another common example would be the Cthulhu Mythos, for which characters appear in many franchises, sometimes even explicitly with similar background, without displaying remotely the same degree of power as the authentic versions. The same applies to mythological beings.

If a character in a crossover does not share the same history as the original, for example due to being an alternative universe version, it should not automatically be considered to possess the same degree of power.

The crossover should be reasonably extensive, meaning that just brief cameos or references to another franchise should not be used for scaling purposes.

Crossover Profile Rules & Guidelines

  • Gameplay should not be used to obtain, through powerscaling, the statistics of crossover characters in videogames that typically allow all characters to fight each other regardless of lore, such as Mortal Kombat, where any character including crossover ones like Leatherface can have fair matches against both relatively weak members of the cast such as Baraka and much more powerful fighters like Shao Kahn, or Fire Emblem Heroes where all playable characters have similar statistics and can fight each other or the same foes despite their original games' stories usually establishing gaps in power between protagonists such as Byleth Eisner compared to average units from the same game, and characters from different sub-series showing vastly different levels of power.
    • It is fine to powerscale a crossover character's statistics through their presence in a game's story mode, equivalent, or other canonical material. Additionally, it is typically acceptable to assume that a character is at least comparable to common enemies in a game if gameplay requires or heavily encourages defeating those enemies, though this can vary depending on the specific case.
    • If a character's statistics cannot be gleaned through powerscaling, in-game feats can be used to determine a safe low end for them. Common examples of such feats are being able to launch enemies with attacks or destroying various objects.
  • Although it is not required, it's massively preferable if a character has something that separates them from their canon counterpart beyond statistics. Often, this is some kind of universal mechanic that anyone in the game has access to (Spirits in Super Smash Bros Ultimate or the Infinity Stones in Marvel vs Capcom: Infinite, which both grant a vast array of powers to any playable character, are two examples), although other, more story-oriented examples, exist. Of course, if the statistics gap compared to their canon counterpart is wide enough, it could be worth making the profile anyway.

Other Cross-Fiction Scaling Rules

For cross-verse scaling to be considered to be used between two separate works of fiction based on author statements, all of the following requirements must be fulfilled:

  • The works must be written by a single same person.
  • There should not be considerable contradictions in the respective displayed power levels for the compared characters.
  • The statements need to clearly have been intended seriously.
  • The compared characters must share a similar nature in terms of types of powers.

Also, these rules should not serve as an excuse to pester authors for replies via social media.

See also