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Ant, I 9000% agree that the Presence is 1-A. He is portrayed 1-A by probably 3 other writers on top of Carey and Matteis. (It's just that it's only under Matteis where he seems to be Tier 0 because Matteis is a spiritual guy who writes the most favorable 1-A stuff for the Presence). Meaning Presence is 1-A by 5 writers and his 1-A stuff are NOT outliers.
 
 
You should never downgrade Lucifer either, why should you downgrade him just because of his current predicament of being sealed inside a pocket dimension in his 2018 story run? Nobody will ever debate him.
 
 
Just because Morrison places the Presence below Limbo, that doesn't mean you should downgrade him anymore than you should downgrade Beyonder just because he's not 1-A/High-1B anymore. If anything, Morrison seemingly portraying the Presence below Quantum Super Position is the TRUE outlier. Thus you should never ever ever use it to judge him. If you downgrade the Presence from 1-A, I would absolutely protest you.
 
 
The reason why I bring all of this stuff up, is to prove how mentally broken DC's Cosmology is.''' In response to various users here who seem to be influencing you that it is somehow a good idea to merge the profiles of the Overmonitor and the Presence.''' We have next to 0 sufficient evidence they are related to each other. Under Morrison's Cosmology, the Presence is hardly 1-A so that's a start as to why that's a totally totally bad idea. We cannot mix the contradicting Cosmology iterations of DC of the current one, to the old ones like that. When the current contradicts many of the past.
 
 
I might be a bother, but I am bothering you to convince you all not to merge their profiles.''' I'm bothering you all to not bother the profiles of the Presence and to please just lay off for now.''' I do not want them upgraded nor downgraded. Just keep them as they are. With everything I pointed out, I think we should just leave them be and judge the characters on their own merits.
 
 
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Oh, I might have misunderstood what you meant, sorry for that, I agree with what you said.